Selfish P rick

Tashjbj · #21 11-10-2004, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

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No offence was meant like I have already stated.

Then you should have thought it more over before posting such a harsh statement. I honestly can't see why it's a cowardly and selfish thing to do. As posted by others, suicide can be the only way out for some people. Ofcourse you can't think clearly when you commit suicide, but when you get depressed and I mean really depressed, you can think strange stuff. A man I knew committed suicide and he wasn't selfish at all, since you seem to think: he thought he was doing his family a favor and that they could pick up their lives again once he was gone, because they didn't have to worry about him anymore. Great for their family, that he's not only gone, but he's also not allowed in heaven as you stated.

So now I'm harsh??? Please get a grip and read the entire post! The title is Selfish P rick.. that's harsh isn't it? Here are another few quotes to help it all along:

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Hes no better than a suicide bomber, I hope he rots in hell.

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**** should have drove of a cliff.

Fine that everyone wants to jump on my words, but I'm not the only one who thinks it is a selfish thing to do. Not that I am right. It is after all only an opinion.

Alex · #22 11-10-2004, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tashjbj

So now I'm harsh??? Please get a grip and read the entire post! The title is Selfish P rick.. that's harsh isn't it?
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Fine that everyone wants to jump on my words, but I'm not the only one who thinks it is a selfish thing to do. Not that I am right. It is after all only an opinion.

Oh, I've read the entire post. And there's a huge difference between finding the mentioned man a p rick because he drags other people into death along with him and stating that all people sho commit suicide aren't allowed in heaven.

Tashjbj · #23 11-10-2004, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

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So now I'm harsh??? Please get a grip and read the entire post! The title is Selfish P rick.. that's harsh isn't it?
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Fine that everyone wants to jump on my words, but I'm not the only one who thinks it is a selfish thing to do. Not that I am right. It is after all only an opinion.

Oh, I've read the entire post. And there's a huge difference between finding the mentioned man a p rick because he drags other people into death along with him and stating that all people sho commit suicide aren't allowed in heaven.

So what is the difference then? What is the difference with saying that "I hope he rots in hell" or "he won't go to heaven"? And in saying that most don't even believe in heaven who post here so please tell me what is so harsh about it?

Alex · #24 11-10-2004, 12:54 PM

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So what is the difference then? What is the difference with saying that "I hope he rots in hell" or "he won't go to heaven"? And in saying that most don't even believe in heaven who post here so please tell me what is so harsh about it?

Do you really want me to explain to you that hoping that this one man rots in hell (because he not only killed himself, but also caused the death of several others) is different from claiming that ALL people who commit suicide (and who only caused their opwn deaths) aren't going to heaven?

Rashbaum · #25 11-10-2004, 02:37 PM

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Yes, and they carried it out.

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So therefore you win??

This, in case you are struggling with the concept, is called flippancy. Maybe being offhand about peoples acquaintances who have died in tragic circumstances would be considered out of bounds for most people.

Also if you can’t see the difference between this guy killing others in his suicide bid and any other act of suicide where no-one but the individual is involved as Alex is trying to point out to you, you are either trolling or really haven’t grasped what's been said here.

Tashjbj · #26 11-10-2004, 03:30 PM

No Rashbaum, there was nothing flippant about that remark, if you think so then that is your opinion.. as seems to be the problem here, having an opinion. I've had enough of this little game and I've had enough of justifying myself. If you all seem to think I'm now some heartless b*tch for saying what I did, so be it. My opinion, period.

One_Wild_Carl · #27 11-10-2004, 03:57 PM

why did he have to do it on a train track

Mongoose · #28 11-10-2004, 05:20 PM

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Don't you dare insult me!

gimp

Keeper · #29 11-10-2004, 08:04 PM

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So what is the difference then? What is the difference with saying that "I hope he rots in hell" or "he won't go to heaven"? And in saying that most don't even believe in heaven who post here so please tell me what is so harsh about it?

Do you really want me to explain to you that hoping that this one man rots in hell (because he not only killed himself, but also caused the death of several others) is different from claiming that ALL people who commit suicide (and who only caused their opwn deaths) aren't going to heaven?

Erm... I think what Tash meant (sorry Tash if it's not) is that *Church* states that suiciders are going straight to hell. She did say "if you believe in heaven". And what is the big deal? It's not like she was the judge and got to decide who was going where. Unless she's been keeping a big secret, that is :P

Alex · #30 11-10-2004, 10:38 PM

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Erm... I think what Tash meant (sorry Tash if it's not) is that *Church* states that suiciders are going straight to hell. She did say "if you believe in heaven". And what is the big deal? It's not like she was the judge and got to decide who was going where. Unless she's been keeping a big secret, that is :P

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Don't worry he will... suiciders never go to heaven (if you believe in heaven ) anyway.

This means that she a. believes in a God and apparently thinks that 'suiciders' are a bunch of low-lifes because they are going straight to hell or b. doesn't believe in a God, but is only repeating what the church is claiming to give Carli some kind of comfort. If it's the last thing, as you're saying now Keeper, I find it very odd: why posting something you don't believe in? Isn't that a false kind of comfort?

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