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Old 11-10-2004, 11:15 PM
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Erm... I think what Tash meant (sorry Tash if it's not) is that *Church* states that suiciders are going straight to hell. She did say "if you believe in heaven". And what is the big deal? It's not like she was the judge and got to decide who was going where. Unless she's been keeping a big secret, that is :P
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Don't worry he will... suiciders never go to heaven (if you believe in heaven ) anyway.

This means that she a. believes in a God and apparently thinks that 'suiciders' are a bunch of low-lifes because they are going straight to hell or b. doesn't believe in a God, but is only repeating what the church is claiming to give Carli some kind of comfort. If it's the last thing, as you're saying now Keeper, I find it very odd: why posting something you don't believe in? Isn't that a false kind of comfort?
Oh dear - aren't you reading too much into this?

I really can't say what she meant, but I took it as a light remark. Not meaning she believes in heaven, not trying to give Carli any sort of comfort. You know, just saying something.

As I said, it's no big deal in my opinion.
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Old 11-11-2004, 09:20 AM
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Oh dear - aren't you reading too much into this?
Not if you know people who actually killed themselves.
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Old 11-11-2004, 11:02 AM
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I useed to think most of them are selfish and i still do in most of the case. But i learn something that lot or some of thse suiciders are not in there sense when they take these steps. So u can't say that person is selfish when he clear he/she clearly not in there senese....
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Old 11-11-2004, 11:27 AM
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Erm... I think what Tash meant (sorry Tash if it's not) is that *Church* states that suiciders are going straight to hell. She did say "if you believe in heaven". And what is the big deal? It's not like she was the judge and got to decide who was going where. Unless she's been keeping a big secret, that is :P
Tash said:
Don't worry he will... suiciders never go to heaven (if you believe in heaven ) anyway.

This means that she a. believes in a God and apparently thinks that 'suiciders' are a bunch of low-lifes because they are going straight to hell or b. doesn't believe in a God, but is only repeating what the church is claiming to give Carli some kind of comfort. If it's the last thing, as you're saying now Keeper, I find it very odd: why posting something you don't believe in? Isn't that a false kind of comfort?
Oh dear - aren't you reading too much into this?

I really can't say what she meant, but I took it as a light remark. Not meaning she believes in heaven, not trying to give Carli any sort of comfort. You know, just saying something.

As I said, it's no big deal in my opinion.
Thanks Keeper! At least YOU understood what I meant!!! Alex: Nope don't believe in heaven or God.. amazing how you misinterpreted my words...
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Old 11-11-2004, 11:29 AM
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i think this is more gooses attempt to lighten the mood slightly, to be honest... an inappropriately timed/placed cheeky insult usually does the trick even i, have to admit
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Old 11-11-2004, 12:20 PM
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Guys just dont judge people till you've been there. You never know what lifes gonna throw at you to make you feel that low.
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Old 11-11-2004, 12:34 PM
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i think this is more gooses attempt to lighten the mood slightly, to be honest... an inappropriately timed/placed cheeky insult usually does the trick even i, have to admit
Maybe.. as you know him better than I do, I will take your word for it Sara!
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Old 11-11-2004, 01:13 PM
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Wonderful, so people have been upset for something you don’t even believe in? at least you can have a respect for someone who holds to their convictions… pretty callous playing devil’s advocate on this topic methinks.
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Alex: Nope don't believe in heaven or God.. amazing how you misinterpreted my words...
Hey, you were the one claiming that it was just YOUR opinion, weren't you? So I don't find it so amazing..

I second Rashbaum's post.
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