You hardliners??? Wow.. that's a new one! I'm sorry if what I said offended you in any way, but I do not see suicide as an option, never! It is never the only option and quite frankly I consider it extremely cowardly and selfish to do. The examples you gave, yes, terrible, but if suicide is your only option then you are not thinking clearly. There are tonnes, hell, millions of people that go through the same or worse and they don't commit suicide. Why? Because maybe they think that life is worth fighting for or maybe they don't want to put people what they are going through. This guy wanted to kill himself (allegedly) so do it, but don't drag others down with you. How bloody selfish can you get!!