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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient
why not??????? he did it once before!
It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.
I was referring to his well documented use of Chemical weapons against his own people
I am talking about this particular incident which was claimed that Saddam could've caused some of it.
Oh Wait. I didn't claim anything. I said it wouldn't surprise me. I meant that, due to the fact that Saddam has been just as cruel to his people in the past.
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ugly... has a point actually

iraq are relying on a particular method of propaganda - and that is reality

it works for them to show the reality of war because at home it fuels anti-war sentiment - in doing so this is being very liberal with the press

whereas our tv networks censor this reality - they talk of troops paraded on tv but they do not show the coverage more than just clips

why do we want to see this? you ask...

well i don't personally but if we are truly democratic and liberal we should see it - and we don't seem to have problems showing the reality of war in other parts of the world

or just plain old reality of life
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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient
why not??????? he did it once before!
It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.
ok this is completely irrational! the US is bombing iraq, we can watch the live coverage, we can see pictures but still the americans do nothing bad! nobody said that saddam is a good person or a good leader but who gives the authority to the US to go there and do whatever they want? Even if Sadam's regime is the reason for this war, then if a more democratic country than yours would attack you in order to "establish real democracy", how would you feel?
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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient
why not??????? he did it once before!
It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.
I was referring to his well documented use of Chemical weapons against his own people
Oh, you mean this:

An investigative journalist and author of the recent article "The Saddam in Rumsfeld's Closet," Scahill said today: "Some of the very same government officials who are now advocating invasion of Iraq, citing its use of chemical weapons over a decade ago, were in fact cooperating with Iraq when it was actually using such weapons. For example, Donald Rumsfeld met with Saddam Hussein in 1983 and again was in Baghdad in 1984 just after U.S. State Department reports of Iraq's use of chemical weapons surfaced. The purpose of his missions to Baghdad was not to get the Iraqis to stop using such weapons -- it was to forge closer ties."
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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient
why not??????? he did it once before!
It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.
ok this is completely irrational! the US is bombing iraq, we can watch the live coverage, we can see pictures but still the americans do nothing bad! nobody said that saddam is a good person or a good leader but who gives the authority to the US to go there and do whatever they want? Even if Sadam's regime is the reason for this war, then if a more democratic country than yours would attack you in order to "establish real democracy", how would you feel?
My country is not run by a cruel ruthless pig!
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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient
why not??????? he did it once before!
It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.
ok this is completely irrational! the US is bombing iraq, we can watch the live coverage, we can see pictures but still the americans do nothing bad! nobody said that saddam is a good person or a good leader but who gives the authority to the US to go there and do whatever they want? Even if Sadam's regime is the reason for this war, then if a more democratic country than yours would attack you in order to "establish real democracy", how would you feel?
Last I checked, no US President gas and tortured his own people??
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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient
why not??????? he did it once before!
It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.
ok this is completely irrational! the US is bombing iraq, we can watch the live coverage, we can see pictures but still the americans do nothing bad! nobody said that saddam is a good person and leader but who gives the authority to the US go there and do whatever they want? Even if Sadam's regime is the reason for this war, then if a more democratic country than yours would attack you in order to "establish real democracy", how would you feel?

USA is the only country that do this. Itīs a good thing that. Europe would be NAZI if USA hadnīt go to France in the 40īs. It seems to me that weīre stupid. USA can do things right or wrong, but we should be more grateful.
Sadam is a dictator, has letal weapons, have killed many people, and he should be in the hell. He want to keep himself in Iraq forever and ever. War is war. People die. DEMAGOGY NOT.
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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient
why not??????? he did it once before!
It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.
ok this is completely irrational! the US is bombing iraq, we can watch the live coverage, we can see pictures but still the americans do nothing bad! nobody said that saddam is a good person or a good leader but who gives the authority to the US to go there and do whatever they want? Even if Sadam's regime is the reason for this war, then if a more democratic country than yours would attack you in order to "establish real democracy", how would you feel?
My country is not run by a cruel ruthless pig!
Yes, I am glad I don't live in the US, lol.
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Old 04-03-2003, 02:13 AM
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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient
why not??????? he did it once before!
It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.
ok this is completely irrational! the US is bombing iraq, we can watch the live coverage, we can see pictures but still the americans do nothing bad! nobody said that saddam is a good person or a good leader but who gives the authority to the US to go there and do whatever they want? Even if Sadam's regime is the reason for this war, then if a more democratic country than yours would attack you in order to "establish real democracy", how would you feel?
My country is not run by a cruel ruthless pig!
maybe but still there are countries more democratic than yours! or at least countries who are more powerful and think that are more democratic....
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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient
why not??????? he did it once before!
It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.
ok this is completely irrational! the US is bombing iraq, we can watch the live coverage, we can see pictures but still the americans do nothing bad! nobody said that saddam is a good person or a good leader but who gives the authority to the US to go there and do whatever they want? Even if Sadam's regime is the reason for this war, then if a more democratic country than yours would attack you in order to "establish real democracy", how would you feel?
Last I checked, no US President gas and tortured his own people??
Yes, but they only care about it when it suits them:

An investigative journalist and author of the recent article "The Saddam in Rumsfeld's Closet," Scahill said today: "Some of the very same government officials who are now advocating invasion of Iraq, citing its use of chemical weapons over a decade ago, were in fact cooperating with Iraq when it was actually using such weapons. For example, Donald Rumsfeld met with Saddam Hussein in 1983 and again was in Baghdad in 1984 just after U.S. State Department reports of Iraq's use of chemical weapons surfaced. The purpose of his missions to Baghdad was not to get the Iraqis to stop using such weapons -- it was to forge closer ties."
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