so sad

SpainSambora · #41 04-03-2003, 02:32 AM

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USA was the country where it was founded the third reich.

how ironic that in your sarcasm you should say something accurate

Maybe if you were talking in Spanish you (sure) would have some problems to explain your opinions.
There are things that are TRUE. USA liberate France. United Kingdom had very very important problems fighting alone against Germany. France was easyly conquered by Germany. I read many books of History, especially books of the second WW. Don´t underestimate me.

SpainSambora · #42 04-03-2003, 02:34 AM

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since i'll be asked to explain myself:

1) US/Nazi business interests
2) IBM and the holocaust though i admit i'm not well up on this so perhaps someone else can say something (it may even be a British company for all i know)

3) woodrow wilson - senate rejects his involvement in Weimar Republic

4) economic crash allowed for the rise of nationalist movements again in the depression

therefore contributed to the nazis

when they economy boomed in the 20s they found very little support - when it crashed they grew

I help you:

1. Roosevelt knew the attack in Pearl Harbor

2. Bush knew the attack in the two towers

3. No plane crush in the Pentagon

4. Elvis live

hellmanfrommars · #43 04-03-2003, 02:34 AM

The other side to this argument.........

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...ies/index.html

I don't see the photo's of these peoples wives, husbands and children plastered all over the free media...................

letitrock · #44 04-03-2003, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SpainSambora

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Originally Posted by letitrock

since i'll be asked to explain myself:

1) US/Nazi business interests
2) IBM and the holocaust though i admit i'm not well up on this so perhaps someone else can say something (it may even be a British company for all i know)

3) woodrow wilson - senate rejects his involvement in Weimar Republic

4) economic crash allowed for the rise of nationalist movements again in the depression

therefore contributed to the nazis

when they economy boomed in the 20s they found very little support - when it crashed they grew

I help you:

1. Roosevelt knew the attack in Pearl Harbor

2. Bush knew the attack in the two towers

3. No plane crush in the Pentagon

4. Elvis live

maybe a language barrier yes - but you've just backed away completely from what i wrote

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USA liberate France

in a way (well of course yes)

liberty = French

SpainSambora · #45 04-03-2003, 02:49 AM

1. First, Usa revolution > France revolution

2. Self-interested country = France

- See what they´re doing in Africa

- See that Chirac and France has oil contract with Iraq

- Chirac pacifist? That should be a joke...

3. Baaz Party (Saddam) is a imitation of Nazis.

ugly_queen_from_mars · #46 04-03-2003, 03:04 AM

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saddam did that? of course... if that is what you want to believe.... if it makes you feel better. he took his bombing airplanes and bombed his own country while the americans were trying to protect those people... how convenient

why not??????? he did it once before!

It would be all over Fox News if Saddam did that. The biased US news agencies would love it.

ok this is completely irrational! the US is bombing iraq, we can watch the live coverage, we can see pictures but still the americans do nothing bad! nobody said that saddam is a good person or a good leader but who gives the authority to the US to go there and do whatever they want? Even if Sadam's regime is the reason for this war, then if a more democratic country than yours would attack you in order to "establish real democracy", how would you feel?

My country is not run by a cruel ruthless pig!

maybe but still there are countries more democratic than yours! or at least countries who are more powerful and think that are more democratic....

I´m sick of this. Please don´t angry with me, but USA was the first modern democracy. Greece?
USA win the "cold war". And be glad of that.
I´m bored of seeing "pacifists" with comunist flags, red flags...There are good pacifists. But think who is using this "pacifism".
I´m not with Bush. But I´m not against Bush. I prefer 1000000000000000000000000 times USA that other country. We should be more grateful.

first of all i was talking hypothetically- what WOULD you do if another country more powerful than yours claimed to be more democratic and invaded in your country? especially spain is not a country famous for its democratic governments.
also if you want us to talk about democracy let me tell you this. democracy means respect to the human rights, to be governed by the one that i chose and not by a falsifier (see bush), to have the social services working at its best and not let citizens out on the streets to die (like happens in the US), to have a real liberty of the press etc etc.... so if you want, go to live in the USA where in schools kids carry guns, people shoot other people from the roofs of the buildings, the former president swears that he had not been sexually involved with monica lewinski, bush was a drug addict, an alcoholic, can't speak not even one foreign language (not even his own

), is dumb with the lowest iq and respects the journalists by firing them (arnette case) and saying things like "what is this asshole doing here?" or something. nice democracy!

ugly_queen_from_mars · #47 04-03-2003, 03:14 AM

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The other side to this argument.........

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...ies/index.html

I don't see the photo's of these peoples wives, husbands and children plastered all over the free media...................

hmm... what are you trying to prove? those soldiers chose to go to a foreign country to fight... they were trained soldiers knowing that they were going to a war! nobody forced them to do so....but instead those kids and women didn't choose to be bombed. you're comparing the soldiers (who willingly invaded into iraq) to the innocent civilians of this country?

Mousebounce · #48 04-03-2003, 03:16 AM

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so if you want, go to live in the USA where in schools kids carry guns, people shoot other people from the roofs of the buildings, the former president swears that he had not been sexually involved with monica lewinski, bush was a drug addict, an alcoholic, can't speak not even one foreign language (not even his own ), is dumb with the lowest iq and respects the journalists by firing them (arnette case) and saying things like "what is this ******* doing here?" or something. nice democracy!

LOL..you have been watching a little to much "Bowling For Columbine." Last I saw in Greece during a PEACE prostest, people were looting stores and throwing smoke bombs, beating people up. Doesn't sound so glamourous there either?

Have you ever even visited the US?

Besides, what has Greece done for the world LATELY?? Oh, not too much.

hellmanfrommars · #49 04-03-2003, 03:20 AM

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The other side to this argument.........

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...ies/index.html

I don't see the photo's of these peoples wives, husbands and children plastered all over the free media...................

hmm... what are you trying to prove? those soldiers chose to go to a foreign country to fight... they were trained soldiers knowing that they were going to a war! nobody forced them to do so....but instead those kids and women didn't choose to be bombed.

I'm merely trying to point out that the Iraqi people are not the only one's suffering losses - a point that you are obviously oblivious to! I don't see you offering sympathy to the families of those allied soldiers killed! There are 2 sides to this war but sadly you are caught up in anti-us sentiment and not anti-war sentiment!

ugly_queen_from_mars · #50 04-03-2003, 03:21 AM

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so if you want, go to live in the USA where in schools kids carry guns, people shoot other people from the roofs of the buildings, the former president swears that he had not been sexually involved with monica lewinski, bush was a drug addict, an alcoholic, can't speak not even one foreign language (not even his own ), is dumb with the lowest iq and respects the journalists by firing them (arnette case) and saying things like "what is this ******* doing here?" or something. nice democracy!

LOL..you have been watching a little to much "Bowling For Columbine." Last I saw in Greece during a PEACE prostest, people were looting stores and throwing smoke bombs, beating people up. Doesn't sound so glamourous there either?

Have you ever even visited the US?

Besides, what has Greece done for the world LATELY?? Oh, not too much.

you're talking about 50 maybe less persons who did all these and many of them had been arrested.
let's say that greece has done nothing good! but hasn't done anything bad either. what good has the US done? of course except from "liberating" iraq?

so sad

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