Suicide Bombers

I know this is possible. I actually think that the US policy actually increases the risk rather than eliminates it.

You missed my point. I want the FBI to concentrate on precise things and be efficient on them rather than be all over the place and not being able to detect the real menace, that's what happened with 9/11 and they didn't learn the lesson.

Do you really think this is what I believe?
Saddam was a dictator and putting him down from his thrown is the one and only positive thing about this war.
There are different sorts of dictatorships. We're slowly fading into one ruled by fear and consomation (spelling?), and it's not the fact that there are other sorts of lunatics then the ones running our "free" countries somewhere on the planet that will make me feel better about it.

Ponrauil

America under Bush has made more enemies in the last few years, than in the last few decades. People of America, I beg you, get rid of this ****ing chimp and elect a man of intelligence, a man worthy of ruling the WASPS that control your country

Actually, you are wrong about that. Clinton managed to cut back the FBI along with security and everything else during his term.

Is he stating facts or just stating the way you also view things? Just because we don't agree with your views does not make us blind followers. I would hope that you understand this.


Truth or your truth. Funny how everyone has different perceptions of the truth.

It won't happen during the next election. The Democrats aren't coming up with a candidate who can give Bush a run for his money. Get ready for another four years.

It might sound pretentious, but I'm convinced about this enough to talk about facts. Some do so about religion, for me it's on what can be called globalisation.
But don't get me wrong, if you read again its:"I'm not saying that all the other US citizens I've chated with on this board are blind Bush followers". There are some blind ones too though, but I wouldn't put people like you or Spunkywho in that bunch.
Let me add that I don't limit this opinion to the US, it's the same in Europe, only with different lies. It's just that recent events have had the US on front pages and that being the one and only Super Power left, it makes it scarrier.

Again, it's something that appears clear enough to me to call it truth. I accept that you may think otherwise though, of course.
Please, can you point out things that Adrian or I said that you think are not true? i.e. Don't you feel that the FBI having full rights to check on anyone restricts your freedoms?
Let me add other questions I'd like to have your answer to (with some explanation ):
-Do you think culture is being more and more regulated and globalised?
-Do you think that you are manipulated or that the system would like to manipulate your opinions?
-Do you feel that non-orientated information is getting harder to find?
-On the few occasions when your opinion could make a difference, such as elections, do you have a real choice? Do you vote for the best, or the least worse?
-I believe the media entertain a certain level of fear/anxiousness in the population, invents us new needs, so we consume. Do you believe the same?
-Why do polititians lie?

Thanks for your answer.

Ponrauil

1st of all sucide for any cause is a perminent solution of the temerory problem.....but thease guys r not cowards..it"s not that easy to kill yourself...basically they r brainwashed by the mullas & terorist organisation...

i"m with u....but the chellange to u guys is "DON"T CHOOSE BLAIR"

I always come back to what David Morse said in an episode of Hack "You take away freedom to protect democracy, pretty soon you don't have one." No, I haven't had FBI snatch squads (thanks Jim Bon Jovi) come raid my house, yet. Well, I'm not sure about that. They don't have to tell me, so I'd never know if they'd been here at all. And as for "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear," this is exactly the WRONG way of looking at government, ours (the US) in particular. This is like legitimizing the police state that's being slowly pushed upon us. That statement says that only the bad guys will have anything to complain about. God forbid I might actually have something that I don't want the government to see, that's not illegal. You hear how the Patriot Act was used to target cooked books in a strip club in Florida? Despite the Patriot Act provision that it wouldn't be used to target domestic crime? The hijackers would not have set off alarms the way they did things, even with the FBI acting the way it is now. Check that, the only terrorist who would've set off alarms was Zacharias Moussoai (misspelled) and that's just 'cause he's an idiot, and besides that he set off alarms even before the FBI was strengthened. The FBI is NOT doing its job. Its targetting innocent Americans, not terrorists. As bad as 9/11 was, even worse would be unleashing the power of a full-blown police state on the American population, and in doing so, the rest of the world. I don't get my information from the left. The left, which is supposedly the Democrats, have all turned communist on us. Somewhere around 1000 innocent Arab men (mostly) were jailed for months after 9/11. And that's by the administration's own admission! How much of a little push do you think it would take to start rounding up anyone with dark skin and putting them in detainment camps, like we did in WW2? Not much!

No Jim, the east and west were not at each other's throats, according to what I've read. The one single incident that messed the whole thing up:Israel. We fund and equip the theft of occuppied land from a people we consider backwards, no wonder they're going to hate us. Before we started supporting Israel and the creation of its state, the Arabs didn't hate us.

Ponrauil:I'm glad to hear I've brought you some relief. The way I'd change things is simple. Take a copy of the Constitution (that you can find in any history textbook) and cut out all the stuff in government that the Constitution either outright forbids or grants to the states/people. The government was supposed to be a weak link between the states, not this mammoth, overbearing obscenity we have today. And yes, its an international problem, but I can only comment on my government, and would only want to fix my government. I don't say that to be cruel or anything, but it would be extremely arrogant of me to want to jump into international politics and (even if I could) try and force other cultures (similar as they may be) to try and live by my standard. I can easily see another revolution happening in the US like we had back in the 1770s, with the US once again becoming a beacon of REAL freedom for the whole world, like we did back then.

Jim:Might I point out that the terrorists are indeed freedom fighters? An incovienent point to be sure, but they are fighting for freedom. Not by the terms we find acceptable, or even honorable, but they are fighting. Freedom from US oppression is their goal. If you'd look at the havoc we've wreaked on the middle east since the founding of Israel, you'd have to see that we're at the very least oppressing them, even if you don't agree with them striving for freedom. Sure, there are personal stakes in the matter for a lot of them, but its not cut-and-dried good verses evil, for either side.

Adrian

Adrian, do you think America gave the Jews israel because they thought hey thats supposed to be yours and the palestinians won't mind of we just budge them over a bit or do you think it had alot to do with the amount of power Jews have with regards to forcing they're wants upon governments?

and you can call them freedom fighters or revolutionaries or whatever you want but i'll put money on that you don't have 12st hand experience of any "freedom fighter" and trust me mate, they like to hide under the flag of freedom and fighting oppression but most of them are just doing it for theirselves and no one else, and they're no better than animals like ian huntley.