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Old 03-31-2005, 08:50 PM
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May she rest in peace.

But, I know I'm going to sound brutal here, but it's one down, two to go for me, before the media in general can get back to their real job.
I don't kow how it is in other countries, but here the last few weeks we're being flooded with the Pope, the Prince Rainier of Monaco and Terry Schiavo, all three about to die, suffering, with a lot of people around them, thinking for them, deciding for them if they should be left in peace or not, plus the media waiting for a scoop that won't be one anymore. It's all so sick. And absurd : as everyone in the media is discussing if they should be left in peace or not, they're stealing the moment that should be their most private from them and their close ones.
This isn't journalism, it's real tv and I just want it to end.

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This isn't journalism, it's real tv and I just want it to end.

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I don't think it is the governments fault or the journalists fault. It's the parents fault - nobody elses.

In fact I think it is good that this topic has been brought out in the open --- may everybody now go and make that living will. And maybe just maybe we'll make progress with the whole euthanasia issue.....


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I don't think it is the governments fault or the journalists fault. It's the parents fault - nobody elses.
I agree. Although I think the media could've handled it better.

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In fact I think it is good that this topic has been brought out in the open --- may everybody now go and make that living will. And maybe just maybe we'll make progress with the whole euthanasia issue.....
Yeah. Starving to death isn't a good way to go, a simple injection would've done it easier and more humane.

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Heart, kidney and lungs failing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4387455.stm

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This isn't journalism, it's real tv and I just want it to end.

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I don't think it is the governments fault or the journalists fault. It's the parents fault - nobody elses.

In fact I think it is good that this topic has been brought out in the open --- may everybody now go and make that living will. And maybe just maybe we'll make progress with the whole euthanasia issue.....
I have no problem with the issue being debated. The parents probably wanted the entire world to know about the story, but I don't believe they asked the media to go over the top on "sensationalism" and 24/7 coverage of the whole thing.

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He's "deadish" but kept alive artificially for I don't know what reason.
The same thing is going on with him than with the Pope, only it's not as mediatic.

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He's "deadish"
that term is funny.

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ROME - A Vatican cardinal denounced the death Thursday of Terri Schiavo, saying removing the feeding tube that was keeping her alive was "an attack against God." Portuguese Cardinal Jose Saraiva Martins, head of the Vatican's office for sainthood, told reporters that "an attack against life is an attack against God, who is the author of life."

I just copied that from Yahoo news - this cardinal has been curiously silent about "an attack against life" in Iraq. I dislike selective causes.

I think starving to death is completely inhumane - but I also don't see the point of keeping a braindamaged person artificially alive for 15 years. We treat our pets more humanely in this country.

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We treat our pets more humanely in this country.

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some of them at least.


This country still uses gas chambers on puppies and other unwanted pets - which imo isn't humane.

Puppy Mills are where most pure bred puppies come from and they are routinely cited for animal cruelty.

Just had to add my personal pet peeves.
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Very true Maria, but if a pet is in pain and dying they can be euthanised painlessly - not starved to death. A human appears to have no such choice - and the damn politicians are happy to use anything for a political football.

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Very true Maria, but if a pet is in pain and dying they can be euthanised painlessly - not starved to death. A human appears to have no such choice - and the damn politicians are happy to use anything for a political football.

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Well an animal has no choice, but it's generally legal to have an animal put to sleep if it's ill, but even if a person asks for it to be done to themself it doesn't always seem to happen.

If something serious happened to me like that I wouldn't want my family to go on for years wondering if I'd be ok, if there was no chance of recovery and it was not a good life I don't think it would be worth it.
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I think she died in a horrible horrible way. I wish her parents had won the court case to keep her feeding tube in and she had died in a more peaceful way.
Yeah, being unable to understand and respond to her surroundings for the next 50 years would have been a really peaceful way to die.


She has been for the past 15 years...don't really understand whats all fuss is about.

I think that it is not humane to keep someone alive for 15 years just because her parents simply can't let go.

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