[Dawn]

Originally Posted by TheseDays2005

Who dumber, bad to worse Beavis, Butthead, Al Bundy, Laurel, Donald Duck, Jesus and Gazzie-boy?

1st Jesus for being dumb enough to still try and save the ones who dont want to be .

2nd Donald Duck for not seeing a counsellor to help with his speech impediment

3rd Gaz for thinking that bad notority is better than none.

4th Beavis and Butthead for not realising it takes more than just a wank.

5th Al Bundy for staying married.

6th Laurel he is just great.

[TheseDays2005]

Originally Posted by Dawn

1st Jesus for being dumb enough to still try and save the ones who dont want to be .

2nd Donald Duck for not seeing a counsellor to help with his speech impediment

3rd Gaz for thinking that bad notority is better than none.

4th Beavis and Butthead for not realising it takes more than just a wank.

5th Al Bundy for staying married.

6th Laurel he is just great.

Nothing to argue there... finally a thread like this and then all make sence ...

[Heppinen]

1) Donald Trump is one disgusting mother****'r.
2) In Europe, we could do with less immigrants.

[Jim Bon Jovi]

Originally Posted by Heppinen

1) Donald Trump is one disgusting mother****'r.
2) In Europe, we could do with less immigrants.

1) no arguments there

2) care to elaborate or are you just an ignorant fanny?

[Rakel]

2. He probably means that people on his country are losing their jobs cause immigrants work for ridiculously low salaries. Here in Portugal it is like that anyway, we've received much more people than we were ready for in my opinion. not being a racist or anything, just the government should worry about their country and their population first and then think about immigration.. it might be good for the country to grow finantially in some years, but it aint easy now...

[Keeper]

Originally Posted by Rakel

2. He probably means that people on his country are losing their jobs cause immigrants work for ridiculously low salaries. Here in Portugal it is like that anyway, we've received much more people than we were ready for in my opinion. not being a racist or anything, just the government should worry about their country and their population first and then think about immigration.. it might be good for the country to grow finantially in some years, but it aint easy now...

The same thing is happening in Spain but I don't think anyone's taking any other people's jobs. These people - who only come here to try and have a better life - are doing what no one else wants to do. They are working in farms and culture fields, etc - not exactly jobs that many natives are willing to take on. And what about the people who exploit them because they have no papers?

We are having a lot of people come from South American countries with degrees, etc and what are they working as? Nannies and cleaners... Barely extremely demanded jobs.

[Rakel]

Originally Posted by Keeper

The same thing is happening in Spain but I don't think anyone's taking any other people's jobs. These people - who only come here to try and have a better life - are doing what no one else wants to do. They are working in farms and culture fields, etc - not exactly jobs that many natives are willing to take on. And what about the people who exploit them because they have no papers?

We are having a lot of people come from South American countries with degrees, etc and what are they working as? Nannies and cleaners... Barely extremely demanded jobs.

well thats true as well, and as i said i dont blame the immigrants for wanting a better life, everyone does and i'm sure any of us would in their situation. *but* at least here in portugal, and where i live in, every damn portuguese shop that closes down, a chinese shop opens the next week... and as you can imagine with low cost and good quality products (they're getting better imo), which leaves the local comerciants (sp) in a difficult situation and sometimes close down

[Jim Bon Jovi]

Originally Posted by Rakel

well thats true as well, and as i said i dont blame the immigrants for wanting a better life, everyone does and i'm sure any of us would in their situation. *but* at least here in portugal, and where i live in, every damn portuguese shop that closes down, a chinese shop opens the next week... and as you can imagine with low cost and good quality products (they're getting better imo), which leaves the local comerciants (sp) in a difficult situation and sometimes close down

that's the price of capitalism. if a competitor can come in at a lower price and put you out of business then that's just how the dice rolls.

as for the jobs they do.

as has already been mentioned, we get alot of polish immigrants here and they tend to do jobs that no one really wants ie menial labour, working fast food places etc...

in some cases they will work on building sites for much cheaper and that loses Scottish workers their jobs which isn't good BUT the focus of attention should be on the employers, NOT the workers. if the employers did everything by the book ie only took on NI registered employees, paid minimum wage etc... then these jobs wouldn't be there for immigrants to take.

on the other hand for every polish spark on a building site you have an african doctor who isn't allowed to help in a hospital because of beauraucracy and red tape.


look at the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation middle eastern and asian immigrants into the UK. These are some of the most productive and wealthiest members of British society today.

[TheseDays2005]

while being worried about immigrants taking jobs, stop.
be worried about 6 yrs olds taking your jobs from your country into theirs....