The Arrogance of Power

joviscout · #11 03-22-2003, 02:37 AM

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You missed the french thing, in fact completely.

Oh no, we get your simple sarcasm.
I just think it's stupid. At least France was brave enough to say no, and not sniff Bushes butt like some other countries.

You you chose to miss my simple sarcasm which instead made you look like a complete idiot to come back with that reply. And france isnt brave its the exact oposite and he has tradings with saddam. Jesus why are you lot so spinless its ok to let the iraqis to be tortured. No wonder this world is going to hell.....

MoosieFate · #12 03-22-2003, 02:50 AM

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It's not our fault. We hate Bush as much as the next person! Don't blame the American people for this. it's the government doing it all! We don't want it to happen!

You are partially right. I can't generalize, and neither can you.
Nice to see an american who isn't bloodthirsty, though.

There are a lot of un-bloodthirsty Americans in this country. Even though there are a few bastards here, we aren't the sterotypical Amercian as seen from other countries - where we hate everyone, want to control the universe, think better of ourselfs, selfish. We aren't like that. And it's our own government that gives out that sterotypical vibe. I guess you'll be surprised on how friendly the people are here.

idealist · #13 03-22-2003, 02:54 AM

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And france isnt brave its the exact oposite and he has tradings with saddam. Jesus why are you lot so spinless its ok to let the iraqis to be tortured. No wonder this world is going to hell.....

France stood up and said no to America and that makes it unbrave? Yes, that's it. Saying no to a world bully is cowardless.
Hey, i believe that the budists in Tibet are being tortured by the chinese in the same way as iraqis are, why not go bomb them for a while, oh, and meanwhile, ask dalajlama what he thinks of that solution.
I think it takes a great deal of spine to see what is going on and not sink to the same, and worse level. Again, ask Dalajlama, he would know. Unfortunately Ghandi is dead, he could give you some great advice about it, too. And if you run out of Tibetian people to kill, you can always go on and save Mjanmar.

Oh, and about tradings with Iraq... Most of iraqis oil fields belong to american companies, and some even to private american owners. Let's not calculate how much money did America make with gulf war and how much will it make with this one. I guess Bush junior wanted he's own war too, why should only daddy be written in history as the oil soilder?

ugly_queen_from_mars · #14 03-22-2003, 02:56 AM

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You must be kidding... Your president needs to grow some brain before he could even start searching for balls. It's pretty damn easy to pretend you have balls when your country spends more money on weapons than all the other 15 countries on the list together. Protect people in other countries getting mistreated?! God, you people really haven't got the slightest perspective at all... Nobody asked you to interfere, you god-complexed nation! The people in Iraq won't be saved with your help, if a govermet or a dictator needs to be thrown, it's own people have to be the ones to do it! And to protect his own... Wow, a few thousand die on your ground for the first time in, what, 150 years, and suddenly you need protection and wipe all arabs off of this planet is how you're gonna get it? I come from a country that survived two world wars, and one additional war, on it's own ground. Maybe you need to see one war up close, just to know that you don't want it. There is no just cause for a war. There never was, there never will be. Get some freakin perspective...

well said!

choclady · #15 03-22-2003, 02:57 AM

I like Byrd. He is one of the few American politicians left with some thought!!! I have read quite a few of his speeches and i am truly impressed by rhis man.

idealist · #16 03-22-2003, 03:02 AM

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And it's our own government that gives out that sterotypical vibe. I guess you'll be surprised on how friendly the people are here.

I know they are, i've met one or two specimen in my life.

It's just that the overall impression isn't very rosy, and it's going on throughout the history.

Shaun · #17 03-22-2003, 03:08 AM

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The people in Iraq won't be saved with your help, if a govermet or a dictator needs to be thrown, it's own people have to be the ones to do it!

and theyll be shot if they even try

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Even though there are a few bastards here,

i must be one of them

peter · #18 03-22-2003, 03:10 AM

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You missed the french thing, in fact completely.

Oh no, we get your simple sarcasm.
I just think it's stupid. At least France was brave enough to say no, and not sniff Bushes butt like some other countries.

You you chose to miss my simple sarcasm which instead made you look like a complete idiot to come back with that reply. And france isnt brave its the exact oposite and he has tradings with saddam. Jesus why are you lot so spinless its ok to let the iraqis to be tortured. No wonder this world is going to hell.....

I heard on CNN today that USA is also getting lots of oil from Iraq. Via UN Oil-for-Food programme.

They also said USA imports 50% of world's daily oil production... And Iraq is still world's 3rd (or second, not sure) largest oil "producer" which makes people wonder...

Mongoose · #19 03-22-2003, 03:11 AM

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At least France was brave enough to say no, and not sniff Bushes butt like some other countries

Ive said it before, Ill say it again

The last time France wanted more proof, it marched into Paris under the Nazi flag

MoosieFate · #20 03-22-2003, 03:12 AM

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i've met one or two specimen in my life.

Sorry, i just don't like how you worded that. But if that floats your boat...

whatever.

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