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Old 02-06-2004, 01:46 PM
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ppl are worrying too much about an enterty they neither understand or comprhend or even believe in...just enjoy life, its too short wondering if you dont believe in a guy called jesus, then u wont be playing the harp in clouds in a blue sky
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Old 02-06-2004, 08:02 PM
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that's how i think most religions started. the people believed in something, some higher power, some different reality.
It's believed that religion was started because people were afraid of death. So, creating Heaven was a way to ease the fear.

And - with that said, I believe - creating Hell, God, and the Bible was a way to get people to conform. So it was kind of a two-for-one deal.
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You think that everyone who believes that God created us and that Jesus is our Savoir are all foolish and brainwashed, right?

When my father died, I turned my back on everything I believed in about God and who He was. I could not acknowldge someone or something that could let that happen to my father and to my family, God was supposed to be so loving and fair. Not long ago, I realized that there was something missing in my life. I was depressed and always distracted, that is when I started reading the Bible. From it, I found comfort and assurance, something I havn't had for a long time. This is how I interpret what I read and where I get my beliefs and values from. I suppose I brainwashed myself then ,
The proof that God exists is all around you. This whole world and everything in it is proof. You are living proof that we have a creator. Prove to me that something as complex as our world and ourselves happened by chance. Prove that we were made from nothing, by nothing. It is illogical to say this and it is also illogical to say that that we evolved from something, because everything has to have a beginning. Something cannot simply exist without a first cause and a creator. Something as complex as our world has to have a designer, there is not way that we just happened. Something also cannot evolve into something else. It is not possible, and defys all logic and reason. If you just leave a piece of bread for millions of years, do you think it will evolve into something else? Just because we are more intelligent than our ancestors does not mean that we evolved from lesser beings. Everything about these ideas of evolution and the like are seriously flawed. For me, this is proof that God exists. Some of my personal experiences, and the miracles I have seen and heard are proof. Change your perception of the world and the meaning of life, then maybe you will see the evidence. It is right in front of your eyes. The proof is even you. But I doubt that this will be enough evidence for you, since you fail to see and listen.

If you can give me enough ground evidence that I am wrong, then I will say that God does not exists and that the Bible is not the word of God. But your chances are slim. It is more logical to say that we have a creator than it is to say we came from nowhere and just happened by chance. THAT is just foolish. Ignoring or denying God and the Bible can not change the fact that He exists and that it is true. What is there to lose to just believe that it is. You have a lot more to lose if it is true and you don't believe because you will be in eternal damnation. This world doesn't give us anything and we leave this world with nothing, but God gives us everything in eternal life.

"In a world that gives you nothing, we need something to believe in" - Jon Bon Jovi
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Something also cannot evolve into something else. It is not possible, and defys all logic and reason. If you just leave a piece of bread for millions of years, do you think it will evolve into something else? Just because we are more intelligent than our ancestors does not mean that we evolved from lesser beings.
If you leave a piece of bread for millions of years, it will evolve into something else. It would develop a mould/bacteria. Science has proven that humans have evolved over the past 4 million years or so. Likewise, what about a caterpiller that becomes a butterfly. Is this not a change or an evolution?

I am Catholic and I believe in the Big Bang theory rather than the creation story. Do I believe Jesus is our Savior? No. I believe he is my Saviour. I also respect the fact that other religions have other creation myths and that they hold different beliefs than I do.

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Something also cannot evolve into something else. It is not possible, and defys all logic and reason. If you just leave a piece of bread for millions of years, do you think it will evolve into something else? Just because we are more intelligent than our ancestors does not mean that we evolved from lesser beings.
If you leave a piece of bread for millions of years, it will evolve into something else. It would develop a mould/bacteria. Science has proven that humans have evolved over the past 4 million years or so. Likewise, what about a caterpiller that becomes a butterfly. Is this not a change or an evolution?

I am Catholic and I believe in the Big Bang theory rather than the creation story. Do I believe Jesus is our Savior? No. I believe he is my Saviour. I also respect the fact that other religions have other creation myths and that they hold different beliefs than I do.

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Bacteria is another form of life, seperate from the bread. It is not the bread itself. The bread gets moldy because the bacteria grows and feeds off of it. The bacteria lives in the air and comes from it and not from the bread. In the end it will always still be bread, just moldy bread. Bread cannot form into a human or another complex being. A caterpiller changing into a butterfly is just its life cycle. It "grows up" and change like we grow up and change. In the end, it is still an insect and will always be an insect. This is just part of the complexity of this world and the things in it. A lot of animals adapt and change, like larvae tuning into a bee, but it is still an insect and still a bee. It will never become something else. Science cannot and never will proove or explain everything and will always be flawed. That is why there will always debate over this and over everything so difficult to understand. I stand my ground as a believer, but accept the fact that people have different views and beliefs.
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If you just leave a piece of bread for millions of years, do you think it will evolve into something else?
Bread is not a living thing, therefore it cannot evolve. Living things change/evolve to adapt better to their surroundings.
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If you just leave a piece of bread for millions of years, do you think it will evolve into something else?
Bread is not a living thing, therefore it cannot evolve. Living things change/evolve to adapt better to their surroundings.
The world wasn't living when it was created from what you call the big bangtheory, then how could it have evolved then?Lving things may adapt, but they can never be something else. I am not using the word adaptation in the evolutionary sense, if I did, then that would mean we evolved from apes to adapt to our surroundings for example. Apes are a completly different life form, even though we have similar characteristics, we are still entirely different from each other. We don't see apes phyically adapting to humans, apes are still around. If we adapted from them, then they would not be here. We did not have the same physical characteristics back then as we do now because we have adapted, but we were always humans and not something else.
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Damn woman. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You really need to open your mind and take off those rose-colored glasses. I could keep going on with you about biology or about how the universe was started but continuing that discussion would involve opening a textbook. An idea I'm not too keen on at 2:09 AM. So, alas, I'm done.
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1 thing i don"t understand about baible.....it"s written there thou shalt not kill"..then y u guys kill the cows>?>?>>??? those who r saying they don"t belive in god are atleast frank....but my question is to a christian who belives in god....
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...then that would mean we evolved from apes to adapt to our surroundings for example. Apes are a completly different life form, even though we have similar characteristics, we are still entirely different from each other. We don't see apes phyically adapting to humans, apes are still around. If we adapted from them, then they would not be here. We did not have the same physical characteristics back then as we do now because we have adapted, but we were always humans and not something else.
we did not adapt from apes. no scientist ever said we did adapt from apes. humans and apes have the same ancestry, that's what the scientists say. the "scientists say: we evolved from apes" thing is just a comon misbelief, like the misbelief that spinach has a high Fe-content.
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