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Old 02-18-2004, 06:03 PM
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Old 02-18-2004, 06:22 PM
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As for abortion, i think its a cop out. You made your bed you gotta lay in it.
As you don't have to carry it, it isn't really for you to say that it's a cop out. Pregnancy can still occur whilst using contraceptives. Each to their own. My body, my choice.

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I know it can still happen. I said that. I still think that if you don't want to have kids then you shouldnt have intercourse. I'm not. why? Cause i don't wanna be called "Daddy".
It is a cop out. If you cant handle the consequences of your actions then you shouldnt be doing it.
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Old 02-18-2004, 07:34 PM
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As for abortion, i think its a cop out. You made your bed you gotta lay in it.
As you don't have to carry it, it isn't really for you to say that it's a cop out. Pregnancy can still occur whilst using contraceptives. Each to their own. My body, my choice.

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It is a cop out. If you cant handle the consequences of your actions then you shouldnt be doing it.
ehmm but this is quite strange for human nature. and i'm not talking about 15 year old kids. you may be 30, have a stable job, money etc. that means that you are able to raise a child but you just don't want it. no one can force you to have it.
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Wait a few years and we'll see if your attitudes change! The fact is if you use contraceptives, it's a statement that you don't want to get pregnant. If it happens, the man has NO rights when it comes to deciding the child's future whether it be aborted or not but is still expected to pay child support. Its not as simple as black and white - what if the woman intentionally gets herself pregnant knowing full well the man doesn't want to (or can afford to!)? It's entrapment, but the poor bloke can't do anything. Men don't have enough protection or say in whether an abortion is the best course of action.

Having kids at an early age wrecks lives and to completely negate abortions is a wreckless act in itself! It not only destroys the parents' futures, it creates, as you phrased it, 'f**ked up people in this world' who don't have a loving supportive set of parents to bring them up.
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Old 02-18-2004, 07:46 PM
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As for abortion being a cop out - it's only a bad thing if people use it as a form of contraception in itself, gettin themselves pregnant time and again and using it as a 'morning after method'. Abortion itself is not an easy way out or a bad thing - its quite a mature and important decision that people are sometimes forced to make!
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Old 02-18-2004, 09:31 PM
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As for abortion, i think its a cop out. You made your bed you gotta lay in it.
As you don't have to carry it, it isn't really for you to say that it's a cop out. Pregnancy can still occur whilst using contraceptives. Each to their own. My body, my choice.

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I know it can still happen. I said that. I still think that if you don't want to have kids then you shouldnt have intercourse. I'm not. why? Cause i don't wanna be called "Daddy".
It is a cop out. If you cant handle the consequences of your actions then you shouldnt be doing it.
If I use contraceptives, I am taking precautions not to get pregnant, if I do, then that isn't exactly a consequence, it's an accident! Therefore it doesn't fall into the consequence criteria. If I don't use anything and I get pregnant, that is then my own stupid fault and in an ideal world suffer the consequences. Abortion isn't so black and white, it isn't an easy decision to make and to think it is a cop out is just stupid. Intercourse is a normal fact of life, humans, chimps and dolphins are the only species that do it for fun and why shouldn't it be.
However, like it is stated above, abortion isn't another form of birth control and it shouldn't be used as such.
Again.. my body, my decision!

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Old 02-19-2004, 03:49 AM
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well I don't have anything against homosexuals or gays, I am however against abortion.I believe that a human being has the rights to his or her life not the life of someone else.And I believe strongly that even if the baby has not been born yet it is still a living human being, if you can't raise a child or support a child finnancially or simply just don't want it, there are a lot of couples who can't have kids that would be able to adopt.
I only say this because not to long ago a girl I had sex with got pregnant, and she aborted without even consulting me or anyone else , (I know i'm young but i also know i would have been a great father) , I would have taken the baby in by myself, it just affected me in such a way , I still think of it as murder.
sorry it's just my opinion.
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Old 02-19-2004, 04:53 AM
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Don't be sorry for your opinion. I personally do not believe in abortion. For one,it takes two people to make a baby and just because the women is carrying the child does not make it solely"hers". Most importantly,I do believe it's wrong because of my religeon-nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with being religeous. If people would be reponsible,a lot of pregnancies would not happen. The ones that do anyway-you deal with it-no one forced anyone to have sex. What you do not hear a lot about is the emotional suffering women (and men) go through after an abortion. I don't know if anyone remembers the women that had 7 babies(forgot the name of 7). She was strongly urged to abort some of them to give the others a better chance of survival in the womb. She refused and every child turned out just fine. They are doing very well.
As far as homosexuality-I don't think it's natural but I don't believe they should be horassed or picked on in any way.I don't believe in any kind of special rights either. Just equal rights. This is my opinion,please spare me the name calling as I know there are a lot of people on here with an opinion different than mine.
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I have no problem with anyone being gay. And I see no problem with the same sex marriage. I was watching the news last night, they were talking about this couple who had been together for 51yrs. Another had been together for like 30yrs.

As for abortion, I am strongly pro-choice and it should stay legal. My mother was an ER nurse back in the early 60's. She told me some horror stories of illegal (coat hanger/back alley) abortions.
It's funny how some of the more rabid pro-life people go as far as killing the doctors and blowing up clinics... Not saying that about ALL the pro-lifers..just the few that take things to far.

Okay, that being said....I don't that abortion should be used as birth control. Women (and men) need to use protection. There are worse things one can get besides pregnant.
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its a sad fact that the guy has pretty much **** all to do with the whole situation apart from when its time to empty his wallet.

case in point: a girl i used to hang about with met a guy and they were kinda seeing each other. she ended up pregnant less than 2 weeks after she met him. she got the baby aborted and they're still together but it could easilly have turned out that she did have the kid, broke up withthe dude and the guy wouldn't have had a say in it and would be expected to pay for it.

do male single parents get income support from the mother?


and remember kids. the best way not to end up being a daddy is to give out the wrong phone number and address
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