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Old 03-10-2004, 01:44 AM
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Krb, there are people who bullshit, true but what would my mate actually achieve by makign up a story about a guy who got shot in the head and had a bullet hole in his back?
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I asked him how that was possible and he explained that bullets are designed to ricochet off bones inside the body and the only time a bullet will go clean through is if it doesnt hit any bones or goes through soft flesh.
isn't true, and I backed it up by searching on Google. Your 'mate in the pub' seems to think that the bullet went through the persons skull, and bounced off of bones and then came out of the man's side/back. Your 'mate in the pub' also thinks bullets are designed to behave like this.
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Old 03-10-2004, 01:47 AM
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Krb, there are people who bullshit, true but what would my mate actually achieve by makign up a story about a guy who got shot in the head and had a bullet hole in his back?
I never said that this wasn't true, I said this:
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I asked him how that was possible and he explained that bullets are designed to ricochet off bones inside the body and the only time a bullet will go clean through is if it doesnt hit any bones or goes through soft flesh.
isn't true, and I backed it up by searching on Google. Your 'mate in the pub' seems to think that the bullet went through the persons skull, and bounced off of bones and then came out of the man's side/back. Your 'mate in the pub' also thinks bullets are designed to behave like this.
My "mate in the pub" know more about guns and bullets and how they work than you or me and I don't take random searches as havign much merit compared to someone I've knew pretty much all my life.
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Old 03-10-2004, 02:13 AM
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Krb, there are people who bullshit, true but what would my mate actually achieve by makign up a story about a guy who got shot in the head and had a bullet hole in his back?
I never said that this wasn't true, I said this:
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I asked him how that was possible and he explained that bullets are designed to ricochet off bones inside the body and the only time a bullet will go clean through is if it doesnt hit any bones or goes through soft flesh.
isn't true, and I backed it up by searching on Google. Your 'mate in the pub' seems to think that the bullet went through the persons skull, and bounced off of bones and then came out of the man's side/back. Your 'mate in the pub' also thinks bullets are designed to behave like this.
My "mate in the pub" know more about guns and bullets and how they work than you or me and I don't take random searches as havign much merit compared to someone I've knew pretty much all my life.
It wasn't a random search, it was a specific search. Try it.

Knowing about how guns and bullets work is completely different to knowing how a bullet behaves after it has left the gun. That is why people who can't get real jobs join the army, and don't become physicists.

So let me get this straight. Your 'mate in the pub' thinks that the bullet penetrated the mans skull, bounced around for a bit, then somehow managed to rebound off of bones all the way down the neck, until it reached his body, and then it came out of his back/side (depending on which version of your story you read). Is that what you are saying? And are you also saying that 'your mate in the pub' thinks this is normal behaviour for a bullet and that they are designed this way?
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Old 03-10-2004, 02:22 AM
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Let's call him David since that's his name. this mate int he pub business makes it sound like we were just slebbering drunken crap to each other which was not the case.

I think you've misunderstood a little. He saw a guy who's one of his friends had shot in the head and the bullet had left through his back. I dunno if you're meanign backside as in his arse but if you mistook what I meant then I can easilly understand why you'd think it was bullshit.

anyways i asked him why and he said the bullets were designed so they could ricochet. as i say, by ricochet i don't mean bounce around inside the body like a rubber ball but it's common knowledge that bullets can and do ricochet off of many things and the possibility of it ricocheting off someones skull and coming out at the top of their back isn't too far facthed.

He didn't come to this conclusion by himself btw this is what they're taught happens by the army.
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:07 AM
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Let's call him David since that's his name. this mate int he pub business makes it sound like we were just slebbering drunken crap to each other which was not the case.

I think you've misunderstood a little. He saw a guy who's one of his friends had shot in the head and the bullet had left through his back. I dunno if you're meanign backside as in his arse but if you mistook what I meant then I can easilly understand why you'd think it was bullshit.

anyways i asked him why and he said the bullets were designed so they could ricochet. as i say, by ricochet i don't mean bounce around inside the body like a rubber ball but it's common knowledge that bullets can and do ricochet off of many things and the possibility of it ricocheting off .

He didn't come to this conclusion by himself btw this is what they're taught happens by the army.
So first it came out of his side, then it came out of his back, and now the bullet came out the top of his back. What's next? the back of the head?

Now, I have been doing some research and I have discovered that there are many different types of bullets. Some bullets are designed to reduce the chance of ricochet. Some bullets have a hollow tip so they are more likely to stay inside whatever they hit, like a head (Just type "different types of bullets" into google) But this contradicts what 'Dave from the pub' says which I quote here:

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I asked him how that was possible and he explained that bullets are designed to ricochet off bones inside the body and the only time a bullet will go clean through is if it doesnt hit any bones or goes through soft flesh.
Now, gun and bullet educated Dave, who is from the pub, has just generalised every different type of bullet into one, and made a wild accusation.

Like I said before, some people are naturally full of bull sh1t. I'm afraid Dave from the pub seems to be one of them.

Him saying that bullets are designed to ricochet off of bones is like me saying that balloons are designed to fall to the ground. They are not designed that way, it is just a physical fact that thats what happens, but there are also balloons that don't fall to the ground: those that are filled with helium.
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Now, gun and bullet educated Dave, who is from the pub, has just generalised every different type of bullet into one, and made a wild accusation.
No, it was gun and bullet uneducated Jim (who was at he pub with gun and bullet educated David from the pub) quoting gun and bullet educated David from the pub and raising a gun and bullet question for gun and bullet info seekers like yourself who might have been from a pub, or should find one right now.

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