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Old 12-23-2006, 10:10 PM
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Plagiarism would be if we took his work and published it ourselves. Para-phrasing it on a message board is perfectly fine, and presumably the very fact that he would publish a book like that would suggest he wants it to be discussed anyway.
Exactly and I deliberately took his examples and his arguments because his book was mentioned and because they are the best and most water-tight arguments. I still find it very interesting that you don't explain why this or that argument that Richard Dawkins gave is weak. You just say that it is. Brilliant!
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anyway ill know i cant put up a good argument but god loves a tryer lol sorry i mean a possible that all evidence points aginst being love a tryer
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Old 12-23-2006, 10:14 PM
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anyway ill know i cant put up a good argument but god loves a tryer lol sorry i mean a possible that all evidence points aginst being love a tryer
If you don't have a good argument for why his arguments are weak, how can you claim that they are?

Is it possible that you've just been hanging around Catholic websites and people there say such things and you just go along with it because you want it to be true?
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Old 12-23-2006, 10:21 PM
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If you don't have a good argument for why his arguments are weak, how can you claim that they are?

Is it possible that you've just been hanging around Catholic websites and people there say such things and you just go along with it because you want it to be true?
lol if i knew any id be away getting them to argue it take ur postyion then use thier arguments against u lol hey not a bad idea!!

i claim they are weak for the reason that they are answerable in a religious way!

take the position i have! i dont like the fact that the RCC doesnt take an interest in fighting against atheism and so when people like Richard dawkins is on tv they get inaddiquite challenges. i can see all the answers to his questions and challeneges but i dnt know enough about it to answer but i know a lot of people who are! but some1 like dawkins up against someone of renouned catholic background in the church! some1 like Pope Bennidict before he was made pope who was known world-wide as a great philosper!
it would be same for u if someone like that went up against a no-body in the field of atheism. if dawkins is to be seen as a something big hav him go up against some big! not a 35 year athesit who has turned relgious or a 2 bit reporter! if u know where im coming from
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Old 12-23-2006, 10:28 PM
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the RCC just dont seem to see atheism as a big threat? would that not bother u? meh

anywho as i grew up in n.ireland iv more looked as catholic vs protestent cause i fin it more interesting to prove them wrong by using there own sources!
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Yeah Benedict is an amazing philosopher. This is the same man who doesn't accept evolution and thinks the entire universe was created less than 10,000 years ago. What a mind.

Also if you can see all the answers to his arguments give a few examples. And good counter arguments have to be based in reality, not on religious grounds.
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Yeah Benedict is an amazing philosopher. This is the same man who doesn't accept evolution and thinks the entire universe was created less than 10,000 years ago. What a mind.

Also if you can see all the answers to his arguments give a few examples. And good counter arguments have to be based in reality, not on religious grounds.
are u sure uv got the right man there? not saying ur wrong but id like to know what ur source is? cause i find that extermely hard to believe

lol theres nothing i can say that u couldnt argue against and vise-versa but it is clear that only one of us is right! lol

im saying great the people who are best at arguing the thingtogether instead of taking on weaker opposation!
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He said it himself the week when he made the comment about Islam that caused so much controversy and he has thrown his support behind the "Intelligent Design" theorists, which is simply creationism dressed up.

He's also a homophobic bigot too, as displayed in his year end speech.
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He said it himself the week when he made the comment about Islam that caused so much controversy and he has thrown his support behind the "Intelligent Design" theorists, which is simply creationism dressed up.

He's also a homophobic bigot too, as displayed in his year end speech.
he siad he was open to the possiblity as he is with everything else. as with all theorys none of them are fact as of yet. his comments with islam were taken out of context if u actually read the speech! he quoted but he didnt say he believe it and he used it for another example. and most people in the media accepted that! islam extremists didnt thats why there was protest about it. as for being homophobic he accepts people as being gay but doesnt believe its a natural thing, he believes people arnt born gay again another thing science is trying to prove! although the gay gene has escaped them so far.
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anywayare u trying to discredit the Pope or something?? i dnt see how that had anything to do with me asking for darkins to take on a stronger challenege than university professers
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