[ponrauil]

Originally Posted by Proteus

The man didn't know Grosso, now I think he knows him.

What's that about?


Ponrauil

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by ponrauil

Indeed :

Nothing even close to an headbutt to the chest.
Make no mistakes about it, I know Materazzi, the way he plays and his bad behaviour but you can kill a person with an headbutt to the chest and you have to be crazy if you do that because of an insult, whatever it is.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by ponrauil

What's that about?

A couple of weeks ago Platini said Italy had no chance to win the Cup. He said he didn't ever hear about players like Grosso.

[ponrauil]

Originally Posted by Proteus

Nothing even close to an headbutt to the chest.
Make no mistakes about it, I know Materazzi, the way he plays and his bad behaviour but you can kill a person with an headbutt to the chest and you have to be crazy if you do that because of an insult, whatever it is.

I know, I was just trying to point that there's not angel or demon in that incident, and that both players need to get what they deserve.

Zidane got a red card as that's what the rules order.

Now if Materazzi said anything racist, he needs to be punished. If that implies that his team should be disqualified, I have no problem with it (and I don't want the cup to be handed to France either). Racism is not acceptable and just like violence must not have any influence on a game's issue.

That Article 55 was revised in march 2006, 3 months before the world cup for all the players and teams to know it. And btw, you can't talk about influence from Blatter or Platini if the rules are applied on solid evidence.


Ponrauil

[ponrauil]

Originally Posted by Proteus

A couple of weeks ago Platini said Italy had no chance to win the Cup. He said he didn't ever hear about players like Grosso.

Wasn't that what most of Italians were thinking as well? Even after the group stage? Just like France really.

I know that after the 1/4 finals Platini predicted an Italy-France final... with a French win...

Ponrauil

[Rosscoe]

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[spunkywho]

To me it is quite irrelevant what that little shit said or didn't say. What offends me may have no impact on you and what leaves me cold might drive you crazy. None of us is judge about how severe or mean the insult was and nobody but Zidane is in a position to call the reaction appropriate or understandable.

What matters is that Materazzi deliberately and continuously worked on pissing Zidane off - it was NOT a casual insult passed out while running by or while fighting over a ball. It was a despicable and heinous behavior and the actual words are irrelevant. Materazzi was on a mission and succeeded. That's why I would not have given a shit if he had dropped dead on the spot - he was looking for it and he got it. Don't go around bullying people and then run crying to your mom if someone gives you a dirty look. One can die from a violent knock between the eyes as well, yet I don't hear the outrage over DeRossi.

It's always the same: people provoke and act like shits and the crowd accepts it and looks the other way. If, however, someone hits back, the crowd is outraged and ready to hang that reacting bastard.

Zidane acted inappropriately and got a red card. He took responsibility for what he did and paid a very very hefty price for the loss of his temper. That is that. Leave him alone now. Remember, though, it always takes two to tango. Focus on the one that STILL acts like a cowardly weasel and is portrayed as the victim. I am certain Materazzi was quite smitten over his accomplishment and had a good laugh on how he got one of the best and most admired athlete and biggest threat to Italy winning the cup out of the match. How can people sit there and villify Zidane, while praising the aggressor and all the others that played dirty in the matches - dismissing it as 'part of the game'. It's idiotic, illogical and a perfect example of how easily people can be led down a path of irrational hate and blind followship. Lynchmob mentality in its textbook example. Scary. Sad. Disgusting.

Surely Italy won the cup - that is not the issue at all. As someone said in the media: not always does the best team win. This is not the first and will not be the last world cup demonstrating that winning is just as much luck as it is skills.

Nor will it be the only cup in which people will never agree as to whether or not the winner deserved to win.

[Proteus]

Materazzi and Del Piero joined The Rolling Stones at their concert in Milan yesterday. Mick Jagger said "Materazzi and Keith have something in common. Both had problems with head". Then Mick started a song which is very popolar in Italy these days:"Who don't jump is a French".

[Proteus]

Anyway I've just seen the video Peter posted on TV. I'm sure Materazzi said "Your sister is a bitch".

[VIERI]

Originally Posted by Proteus

You may be right since FIFA is ruled by Blatter and Platini.





It seems Zizou doesn't use his head to think.

FOR Ponrauil
youre right he was trying to kiss him....
come on just stop know france lost AND WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS...