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Old 02-10-2004, 01:11 AM
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I was using armed in the an example other than the TM case. If the guy who was shot's mate had a gun, there'd been more than 1 dead....
That's a pretty bad reason for letting the criminals have their way with your property. Don't defend yourself and your property because they might shoot back. Not a good enough reason for not defending yourself. That tells me to always shoot first and use high capacity magazines....

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You should know that Tony Martin lives on a farm & the trespasser was not shot right outside his back door.
If he shot the guy on his property, it should be dropped. If he shot the guy in the street, he should have to prove he was defending himself, and if he can't, he should be tried as a criminal.

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You know how many people walk across farms?? Do they all forfeit their right to live??
not everyone who walks on a farmers land will try and break into the farmhouse.

It's simple. If you start shooting people breakign into your house either they'll get the idea and there'll be no robberies, or they won;t get the idea and sooner or later there'll be none of them left anyway.
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Old 02-10-2004, 01:53 AM
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I was using armed in the an example other than the TM case. If the guy who was shot's mate had a gun, there'd been more than 1 dead....
That's a pretty bad reason for letting the criminals have their way with your property. Don't defend yourself and your property because they might shoot back. Not a good enough reason for not defending yourself. That tells me to always shoot first and use high capacity magazines....

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You should know that Tony Martin lives on a farm & the trespasser was not shot right outside his back door.
If he shot the guy on his property, it should be dropped. If he shot the guy in the street, he should have to prove he was defending himself, and if he can't, he should be tried as a criminal.

Adrian
You know how many people walk across farms?? Do they all forfeit their right to live??
not everyone who walks on a farmers land will try and break into the farmhouse.

It's simple. If you start shooting people breakign into your house either they'll get the idea and there'll be no robberies, or they won;t get the idea and sooner or later there'll be none of them left anyway.
Right on!!! I'm guessing British law (providing they stopped disarming their citizens) wouldn't look too favorably on people who shot at trespassers who hadn't made threatening motions towards the owner of the land, so there's really no problem...

If you want further information about disarmament and its negative effects on crime, check out "More Guns, Less Crime" by John Lott (I think he's a proffessor at Yale or Harvard). Its not just an opinion piece either. He's got statistics he's collected for decades in there. Check it out, its worth reading.

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