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Old 03-23-2003, 05:45 PM
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It is a historical fact that the USA let Russis invade Berlin first as revenge for Germany's eastern front atrocities. The russians then proceeded to rape 20,000 german women and children, in Berlin after the capital was taken.
Was it not the Germans who discovered that the Russians had murdered 4000 polish officers in Katyn in 1943. Russia should have been on trial at Nuremberg as well.
Perhaps. But they were the winners just as the US will be the winner here despite being the invader and a criminal.
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It is a historical fact that the USA let Russis invade Berlin first as revenge for Germany's eastern front atrocities. The russians then proceeded to rape 20,000 german women and children, in Berlin after the capital was taken.
Was it not the Germans who discovered that the Russians had murdered 4000 polish officers in Katyn in 1943. Russia should have been on trial at Nuremberg as well.
Where did you hear this?
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It is a historical fact that the USA let Russis invade Berlin first as revenge for Germany's eastern front atrocities. The russians then proceeded to rape 20,000 german women and children, in Berlin after the capital was taken.
Was it not the Germans who discovered that the Russians had murdered 4000 polish officers in Katyn in 1943. Russia should have been on trial at Nuremberg as well.
Where did you hear this?
Certainly the first I've heard of it......
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It is a historical fact that the USA let Russis invade Berlin first as revenge for Germany's eastern front atrocities. The russians then proceeded to rape 20,000 german women and children, in Berlin after the capital was taken.
Was it not the Germans who discovered that the Russians had murdered 4000 polish officers in Katyn in 1943. Russia should have been on trial at Nuremberg as well.
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Certainly the first I've heard of it......
The way I remember it, it was Stalin took as opposed to being offered. Hense the "iron curtain" speach by Churchill, stressing the way Russia is taking the land, and pulling it under the USSR cover, as opposed to having a nice agreement with America.
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The way I remember it, it was Stalin took as opposed to being offered.
I'm sorry. I don't understand what you are saying. Would you rephrase please?
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The way I remember it, it was Stalin took as opposed to being offered.
I'm sorry. I don't understand what you are saying. Would you rephrase please?
He means the USA didnt offer it but Stalin took it.
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It is a historical fact that the USA let Russis invade Berlin first as revenge for Germany's eastern front atrocities. The russians then proceeded to rape 20,000 german women and children, in Berlin after the capital was taken.
Was it not the Germans who discovered that the Russians had murdered 4000 polish officers in Katyn in 1943. Russia should have been on trial at Nuremberg as well.
bullshit

a) the US were racing towards Berlin as fast as Russia... Russia had the advantage since she had gained the most ground...

b) there are no such things as historical facts - well there are... but they are never as clear as you are trying to make out

you are talking complete rubbish... gang rape was a major problem yes - but you are ignoring the fact that many Russians showed great compassion also - it is not as simple as you are trying to make out...

US never "lets" anyone have anything... they just lost the race
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It is a historical fact that the USA let Russis invade Berlin first as revenge for Germany's eastern front atrocities. The russians then proceeded to rape 20,000 german women and children, in Berlin after the capital was taken.
Was it not the Germans who discovered that the Russians had murdered 4000 polish officers in Katyn in 1943. Russia should have been on trial at Nuremberg as well.
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there are no such things as historical facts - well there are... but they are never as clear as you are trying to make out
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