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Old 05-26-2004, 05:04 PM
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who supported Hitler: the German people

you don't need to go out and vote to support someone. sitting back and letting them do what they're doing is supporting their ams.
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Old 05-26-2004, 05:31 PM
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who supported Hitler: the German people

you don't need to go out and vote to support someone. sitting back and letting them do what they're doing is supporting their ams.
In that case, many of us supported him for quite sometime.
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who supported Hitler: the German people

you don't need to go out and vote to support someone. sitting back and letting them do what they're doing is supporting their ams.
In that case, many of us supported him for quite sometime.
There's a difference between actually living under him and allowing it to happen and being another countrytryign to reason with him.
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Old 05-26-2004, 05:38 PM
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who supported Hitler: the German people

you don't need to go out and vote to support someone. sitting back and letting them do what they're doing is supporting their ams.
In that case, many of us supported him for quite sometime.
There's a difference between actually living under him and allowing it to happen and being another countrytryign to reason with him.
I would have thought we'd have had more power to stop it.
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who supported Hitler: the German people

you don't need to go out and vote to support someone. sitting back and letting them do what they're doing is supporting their ams.
In that case, many of us supported him for quite sometime.
There's a difference between actually living under him and allowing it to happen and being another countrytryign to reason with him.
I would have thought we'd have had more power to stop it.
We did a better job of stopping him than the German people did
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Old 05-26-2004, 05:46 PM
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who supported Hitler: the German people

you don't need to go out and vote to support someone. sitting back and letting them do what they're doing is supporting their ams.
In that case, many of us supported him for quite sometime.
There's a difference between actually living under him and allowing it to happen and being another countrytryign to reason with him.
I would have thought we'd have had more power to stop it.
We did a better job of stopping him than the German people did
Exactly - unfortunately the German ppl that didn't support him, or stopped supporting him when he went crazy wouldn't have had any say in the matter.
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Old 05-26-2004, 05:50 PM
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I think that you have to see where Germany was at the time. It is very easy to say they did nothing, but the country was in a state, inflation was terrible and the rest of Europe had left them high and dry. Hitler came along and promised everything would be better under his rule and it was for a bit. I really believe a lot of Germans did not know what Hitler was truly up to until it was too late, as did we all, propaganda was his strong point don't forget! It was really only after the invasion of Poland that the rest of Europe really took notice, before that he was just some nut in Germany that might be trying something.
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who supported Hitler: the German people

you don't need to go out and vote to support someone. sitting back and letting them do what they're doing is supporting their ams.
In that case, many of us supported him for quite sometime.
There's a difference between actually living under him and allowing it to happen and being another countrytryign to reason with him.
I would have thought we'd have had more power to stop it.
Well as I believe Mr Izzard once said "Pol Pot killed one point seven million Cambodians, died under house arrest, well done there. Stalin killed many millions, died in his bed, aged seventy-two, well done indeed. And the reason we let them get away with it is they killed their own people. And we're sort of fine with that. Hitler killed people next door. Oh, stupid man. After a couple of years we won’t stand for that, will we?"



Anyway, in answer to the original question, I don't think Hitler exactly listed mass genocide, aryan superiority and world war ambitions in his manifesto! The terrible state of the economy, especially the way in which it impacted, as said before, the middle classes meant that parties with extreme views were always going to have more support than they would normally enjoy. However, there were obviously a few helpful coincidences along the way - Reichstag burning etc. We have to remember though that this state of the economy was mainly due to the appaling terms laid out in the treaty of Versaille.....

Propoganda is an extremely powerful tool, and can fool even the wisest of men.....
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Hello, do you all forget that so many people didn't even know what he was doing? Imagine you would have lost your existance and when he comes you find a new job and are told to be the king of the world. Would you really be able to see what's slowly happening with the jews, commonists and everyone else that doesn't fit into Hitlers image of the world? It wasn't that he came over night and said "ok, let's start a war and fight everyone who isn't german!" Hitler and Goebbles were some intelligent guys (just a shame for what they used their intelligence). They knew how to handle the psyche of people so that they do what they want.
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read the book "a history of fascism, 1914- 1945" by stanley g. payne.
i had to study it for uni it's 700 something pages long.
it's good.
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