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Originally Posted by DevilsSon
I would say that is true for the last few years but not for the 90s and the 00s.
Dortmund and Leverkusen were class opponents and the Bayern - Dortmund games where always top class derbies. Let's not forget that Dortmund won the Champions League and played the UEFA Cup final whereas Leverkusen beat all English teams to lose against Madrid in the final (while the same year Dortmund lost the UEFA Cup final to Feyenord). I always thought the competition in the Bundesliga was much stronger than in England where only ManU and Arsenal mattered (reffering to the mid 90s to early 00s). Liverpool and Chelsea came in quite recently.
Kaiserslautern only made it once (in recent times, 199  to the title. They came with Otto Rehagel(coach of Greece) from the 2nd league and won it directly. Then they beat Barcelona in the Champions League so it's not like they won it cause Bayern was in a crisis. The difference between Germany and say France is that in Germany there always is competition, only it tends to be quite often a different opponent for Bayern whereas Lyon has no competition at all. |
Yes of course, Dortmund how can I forget, I was at the freakin' final in Rotterdam vs Feyenoord.
Anyways geussing we seeing it each a different way. Sure Dortmund was there for a while, Leverkussen did good but I actually ment over longer period say 30 years. Can't imagine any team in Germany even managed to top Bayern's budget for more then 2 years (could be wrong though).
France is a laugh, they don't have any team who has been constantly on top, league and budget for more then 6 years, except for Lyon now and they are really lonely at the top.
England always had man unt & arsenal. Not sure though about Liverpool, werent they very big in the 80's with Grobbelaar? - could be wrong here also. But agreed England weren't internationaly as top as competition untill mid 90's when foreign players really started there (Cantona, Gullit, Vialli etc). Geuss untill then or few years later your absolutely right about Germany having more competetion, I don't see it nowadays however.
Italy gets his downside now, they had a briliant competition in the 80's and 90's always had their top teams, Spain has been in my opinion always a ruled by just two teams, Barca & Real, like Holland with PSV & Ajax... (noticing I don't mention Feyenoord altough they beat Dortmund in final 2002)
I really hope for a big competetion for smaller competetion, imagine top 7 germany, top 5 france, top 4 holland, top 2 belgium (altough just Holland & Belgium merging seems more realistic)