Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community
Home Register Members FAQ
 

Who Will Win The US Presidential Election?

NBJ - Everything Else


View Poll Results: Bush or Kerry?
Bush 18 60.00%
Kerry 12 40.00%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #31  
Old 10-25-2004, 12:59 AM
Mousebounce's Avatar
Mousebounce Mousebounce is offline
Rocket Queen
I'll Post When I'm Dead
 
Join Date: 01 Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey
Age: 48
Gender: female
Posts: 16,193
Send a message via MSN to Mousebounce
Default

Quote:
It's not because he sucks, it's because 50% or so still support him though he sucks for sure, when his opponent MIGHT suck.
Look at John Kerry's voting record, which tells a different story than what comes out of his mouth. He sucks too. Your opinion may differ, but the fact that this election is virtually tied speaks volumes.

Quote:
t's not the lack of candidates, it's the unbelievably big support of the oh so lousy one.
Due to the fact that the other candidate is just as lousy.
__________________
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.

Reply With Quote

  #32  
Old 10-25-2004, 01:36 AM
Adrian's Avatar
Adrian Adrian is offline
Senior Member
It's my post
 
Join Date: 31 Oct 2002
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Age: 35
Gender: male
Posts: 4,805
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ponrauil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian
Quote:
Originally Posted by ponrauil
And one thing I'm pretty sure about, but I admit it's just my opinion, I don't think Chirac would have finished his term if he had started a war based on lies, violated our constitution as much as Bush did with yours....
How has Bush violated our Constitution, and why does it matter?

Adrian
Ever heard of the Patriot Act?

Ponrauil
Yes, I've heard of it. But why does it matter that he violated our Constitution?

Adrian
__________________


What Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
What part of my soul is crying
For crying out loud
What part of my heart is beating
Faster than the speed of love
Is this the way that it's supposed to be
What Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
Come a little bit closer
Come here now
Let's see
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 10-25-2004, 02:27 AM
Mongoose's Avatar
Mongoose Mongoose is offline
PLAY KING OF THE MOUNTAIN...
I Don't Want To Post Forever
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2002
Location: Sheffield
Age: 38
Gender: male
Posts: 13,330
Default

Quote:
Blair had close to 90% of his people against him to go along side Bush in Iraq.

LoL, no he didnt.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 10-25-2004, 05:33 AM
ponrauil's Avatar
ponrauil ponrauil is offline
Senior Member
It's my post
 
Join Date: 12 Oct 2003
Location: Nantes - France
Age: 44
Posts: 4,962
Send a message via MSN to ponrauil
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mongoose
Quote:
Blair had close to 90% of his people against him to go along side Bush in Iraq.

LoL, no he didnt.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBC news
In the UK, an opinion poll in the Times newspaper this week found that 51% of those questioned saw Tony Blair as a US poodle - although 47% trusted him to do the right thing. An overwhelming 86% wanted more time for weapons inspections, and only 25% thought enough evidence had been found to justify a war.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2747175.stm

Ok, so it's 86% and not 90% that wanted the inspection to go on, and therefore opposed Blair/Bush's rush to war.

Ponrauil
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 10-25-2004, 05:41 AM
ponrauil's Avatar
ponrauil ponrauil is offline
Senior Member
It's my post
 
Join Date: 12 Oct 2003
Location: Nantes - France
Age: 44
Posts: 4,962
Send a message via MSN to ponrauil
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian
Quote:
Originally Posted by ponrauil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian
Quote:
Originally Posted by ponrauil
And one thing I'm pretty sure about, but I admit it's just my opinion, I don't think Chirac would have finished his term if he had started a war based on lies, violated our constitution as much as Bush did with yours....
How has Bush violated our Constitution, and why does it matter?

Adrian
Ever heard of the Patriot Act?

Ponrauil
Yes, I've heard of it. But why does it matter that he violated our Constitution?

Adrian
What are you playing at? You know probably better than anyone here how the Patriot Act violates your constitution.
Some Federal Judges are ruling parts of it unconstitutional already.

It matters because it's violating rights and freedoms, ones you'd call God given. The very ones US soldiers are fighting for abroad are violated at home by this administration.

Ponrauil
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 10-25-2004, 01:59 PM
Mongoose's Avatar
Mongoose Mongoose is offline
PLAY KING OF THE MOUNTAIN...
I Don't Want To Post Forever
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2002
Location: Sheffield
Age: 38
Gender: male
Posts: 13,330
Default

Theres a difference between wanting inspections to carry on and not wanting to go to war...hell I'd have been happy for the inspections to carry on for a bit; doesnt mean Im some sort of peace-loving hippy
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 10-25-2004, 02:06 PM
ponrauil's Avatar
ponrauil ponrauil is offline
Senior Member
It's my post
 
Join Date: 12 Oct 2003
Location: Nantes - France
Age: 44
Posts: 4,962
Send a message via MSN to ponrauil
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mongoose
Theres a difference between wanting inspections to carry on and not wanting to go to war...hell I'd have been happy for the inspections to carry on for a bit; doesnt mean Im some sort of peace-loving hippy
I know but these were the two sides at the time. US/UK had enough of inspections and wanted to go to war immediately, and did, when France/Germany/Russia wanted some more before going to war if needed according to inspection conclusions.
Unlike what was said at the time, no one (at government level) was being a peace-loving hippy.

Ponrauil
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 10-25-2004, 02:24 PM
ponrauil's Avatar
ponrauil ponrauil is offline
Senior Member
It's my post
 
Join Date: 12 Oct 2003
Location: Nantes - France
Age: 44
Posts: 4,962
Send a message via MSN to ponrauil
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mousebounce
Quote:
It's not because he sucks, it's because 50% or so still support him though he sucks for sure, when his opponent MIGHT suck.
Look at John Kerry's voting record, which tells a different story than what comes out of his mouth. He sucks too.
How do you stay 20 years in the US Senate if you suck that much?
How about you check out bills he's fought for and sometimes wrote himself?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mousebounce
Your opinion may differ, but the fact that this election is virtually tied speaks volumes.
On how well Bush's campaign is run, the man has the worst record since the great depression and is still in the race.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mousebounce
Quote:
t's not the lack of candidates, it's the unbelievably big support of the oh so lousy one.
Due to the fact that the other candidate is just as lousy.
Then it still stands, they both have huge support though lousy. Why?

Ponrauil
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 10-25-2004, 02:45 PM
Mousebounce's Avatar
Mousebounce Mousebounce is offline
Rocket Queen
I'll Post When I'm Dead
 
Join Date: 01 Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey
Age: 48
Gender: female
Posts: 16,193
Send a message via MSN to Mousebounce
Default

Quote:
Then it still stands, they both have huge support though lousy. Why?
As I have said, it is all about who to keep out rather than who to keep in.

Quote:
How do you stay 20 years in the US Senate if you suck that much?
It isn't all that hard. Power and money go a long way in the world today. Just look at Bush.

Quote:
On how well Bush's campaign is run, the man has the worst record since the great depression and is still in the race.
Exactly, because Kerry is not a worthy opponent. If the Dems put someone in there who was any good, this election would have been a landslide in their favor. They needed a more moderate candidate for this election, and they would have had no problem winning it.
__________________
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.

Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 10-25-2004, 04:27 PM
Adrian's Avatar
Adrian Adrian is offline
Senior Member
It's my post
 
Join Date: 31 Oct 2002
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Age: 35
Gender: male
Posts: 4,805
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ponrauil
What are you playing at? You know probably better than anyone here how the Patriot Act violates your constitution.
Some Federal Judges are ruling parts of it unconstitutional already.

It matters because it's violating rights and freedoms, ones you'd call God given. The very ones US soldiers are fighting for abroad are violated at home by this administration.

Ponrauil
I'm not playing at anything. I would like to know your reasons (not mine) why Bush violating the Constitution is a bad thing. Kerry is just as bad, if not worse, when it comes to the Constitution. Why is BUSH doing it bad, but not KERRY?

Adrian
__________________


What Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
What part of my soul is crying
For crying out loud
What part of my heart is beating
Faster than the speed of love
Is this the way that it's supposed to be
What Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
Come a little bit closer
Come here now
Let's see
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11.
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.