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Old 02-06-2003, 10:00 PM
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I think that the reason why the Americans claim what they are not is because they want to seem cultured and intelligent, when the truth is they have never left their own country.
Could you please explain how you mean that?
Sorry, I used bad English. I meant that maybe Americans say that they are Irish, English, French, Italian or whatever because they feel it makes seem them more sophisticated and cultured.
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Old 02-06-2003, 10:02 PM
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Maybe that's because they are more cultured. That's what I want to say the whole time: Americans have no real own culture.
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And the Holland is copying the States also with that..
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Maybe that's because they are more cultured. That's what I want to say the whole time: Americans have no real own culture.
Yes, but it doesn't mean that they are Irish, English, French etc.
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Maybe that's because they are more cultured. That's what I want to say the whole time: Americans have no real own culture.
Yes, but it doesn't mean that they are Irish, English, French etc.
Did I ever say that? I just said that there's nothing about America they could identify with.
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Maybe that's because they are more cultured. That's what I want to say the whole time: Americans have no real own culture.
Yes, but it doesn't mean that they are Irish, English, French etc.
Did I ever say that? I just said that there's nothing about America they could identify with.
You implied it.
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Really? You can get used to live without identifying with any nationality.
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I'm with KRB all the way on this one, it's a d*mn good point really! It really doesn't matter if you for i.e have a grandmother born in Italy and yourself is born and raised in Sweden. That makes that person Swedish, not Italian.
I think it all, as KRB said, comes down to the feeling of more sophistication and value, nothing else.
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I'm with KRB all the way on this one, it's a d*mn good point really! It really doesn't matter if you for i.e have a grandmother born in Italy and yourself is born and raised in Sweden. That makes that person Swedish, not Italian.
I know what you want to say but I'm talking about America and not about Sweden (I'm not very well informed about Sweden so I can't tell much about it)
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