Hmmm, well from an older women's viewpoint I'll speak from my own generation and from watching my kids generation.

Most guys that truly LIKE women (and I don't mean just sexually or as a sexual putdown) tend to get married rather early because they have bonded with a particular woman who appreciates the fact that they are liked and respected - not just a possession.

The too young guys are obvious - they just need some time to mature - not their fault.

Gay guys can also LIKE women but obviously it's not sexual and that sort of relationship is not one most women are looking for.

Then there are the vast majority of guys that due to culture pressure or some other reason don't really LIKE women. They like sex but they don't really LIKE the company of woman. Most guys prefer to hang out with other guys and want women around only for sex. On this board you see comments from one guy to another about not "acting like a girl" They think that's the worst sort of putdown - as if acting like a girl is the worst thing anyone could do. Well for the 50% of us that were born girls it's kind of hard NOT to act like a girl. And if you are with a guy that thinks that acting like a girl is a putdown - he is not great company. Hence the comment - all the good guys are either married, too young or gay.

ok rant over
Kathleen