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1. Was there any evidence of WMD in Iraq??

The responses: How can you believe he doesn't have them? He's had them before.... We found a tiny vial of Reisin (or whatever it was). Purely speculative (apart from the last one which isn't evidence of a central WMD programme.)

So at face value & without any guesswork etc.... & answering the question directly.

Is there any evidence of WMD in Iraq??

Answer = No.

Hence the war could not possibly be fully justified regarding this question.

2. Does he sponsor terrorism?

Here is a state that isn't highly recognised as having sponsored state terrorism.

So just on face value:

Is there any evidence they have sponsored state terrorism??

Little if any. I think the most concrete was that guy who met Al-Queda concerning the 11th Sept 2001 attacks on the US. That guy has been shot by Saddam however.

Are there other 'rogue states' with more evidence of state sponsored terrorism??

Nearly all of them. Libya for example sponsored the IRA and 4 large terrorist attacks across the globe.

Hence - attacking them for terrorist reasons is not fully justified.

3. Were you on a mission of liberation?

Randall is one of the few ppl that gets that liberation wasn't in the primary mission statement. The blueprint for the war was in fact drawn up in 1997 by the PNAC & there is no mention there.

So - liberation is an added benefit?? Sure, but since the other 2 reasons weren't fully justified this is kind of clutching at straws in an attempt to justify the invasion.

Purely on face value, Iraq produced university level students.

All of the houses & hospitals that the US are rebuilding were there before they bombed them.

The Mass Grave victims date from 1983 - 1991.

There are people in far more need of liberation than Iraq.


So - in conlcusion, the war wasn't fully justified - which a war has to be in my book.

So: There was another motive. Sure the Moveon ppl may have dropped the argument for No war for Oil. However that is because this startegy wouldn't connect with the US people - being so dependent on oil as they are. They would have to get rid of all their SUV's if oil prices were to rise due to uncertainty in the region. The first analysis of the Libya situation on a US news channel was how the US might be able to get some of their oil.

Why was Dick Cheney's ex-firm given $5 billion in contracts?

Is there a religious aspect to this?? After all, the man put in charge on hunting Bin Laden thinks he is on a mission from Christ:

Bush appointed General William Boykin, who speaks at evangelical Christian meetings, to head the hunt for Osama bin Laden. Boykin once said the war on terror was a fight against Satan, and also told a Somali warlord that, 'My God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.'

This quote is easy to dig up on google.

Also, Bush is fighting an axis of evil. This was reported in an Israeli newspaper:

"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."


So..... Why did Bush really attack Iraq??