why war in iraq was never necessary

as an ex british soldier, i don't take pleasure from the fact i forecast that the war in iraq would lead to western coaltion winnng the ground with major problems before and after- I said at the time that the iraquis would conduct a guerilla warfare campaign similar to vietnam, that is exactly what is happening.
Now the truth is being revealed. my son is still in the army and this is ONE OF THE FIRST newspaper reporst that reveals the truth.

http://www.news.scotsman.com/interna...?id=1204522003

I feel sorry for USA soldiers who are now losing their lives at the rate of 2 per day in Iraq, more than was killed in the war Proper.


P.S
I served as a member of the british army years ago -Royal Signals seconded to the Royal Miltary Police and I would be very grateful if those people on bon jovi, who were from countries not involved in the first and second world wars and would normally ignore this occasion, took at least a moments silence on armistice day (nov 11) to remember that the ultimate sacifrice was paid , by not only british, french and belgium troops and also german and usa (last year of the 5 year war)=but also russian and turkish ottoman etc troops. it was the last world war fought with honour-(except for when the germans started using poison gas but i accept that they only used it first before we did......... jim bon jOVI AND mONGOOSE have links to thebritish poppy memorial sites, please remember those who fought for freedom.

I did not think it was necessary. I don't believe in the reasons why the American felt necessary to go to war. It was the same thing with Osama...can't find him either. Innocent people are dying and that's not right.

I have the feeling that this is going to be an interesting topic.

investigation, Meekin said, suggests Iraqi efforts to obtain dangerous technology since 1991 met with modest success at best.

"Our judgment is that sanctions have been pretty good, or the sanctions effort, to prevent the import of components," he said. "I guess there’s more fertile ground in North Korea or Iran."


in other words, if iraq was unable to make a nuclear bomb after 1991, it was due to american sanctions preventing them from doing soa succcess -doh, so now lets invade north korea and japan.

Yeah...that just isn't good. Don't fcuk with the ones who admit that they have the bombs. I'd be doing everything to appease the North Koreans. Just a personal opinion.

Stephanie

Before everyone starts bashing Americans, take a look at the things that we have been seeing in our papers.

Here is a sample:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/col/...p-117212c.html


Veep should 'fess up
on Iraq's nukes

Dick Cheney is the most powerful vice president of modern times - more powerful than the seasoned Al Gore under the callow Bill Clinton or the experienced Poppa Bush under the inexperienced Ronald Reagan. Cheney, in fact, is sometimes referred to as President Bush's brain or, to be even more mocking, his ventriloquist. It would be fitting, then, for this most powerful of all vice presidents to be the first in American history to be censured. He has it coming.
It won't happen, of course. But Cheney ought to be made to account for his exaggerations of the Iraqi threat. I am referring specifically to his dire warning that Saddam Hussein's Iraq was working on a menacing nuclear weapons program and the United States had to do something about it. We know now that such a program did not exist.

We know it because it cannot be found. We know it because it would be impossible to hide. We know it because the experts have said so. They have told my Washington Post colleague Barton Gellman that Iraq, in his words, had "no active program to build a weapon, produce its key materials or obtain the technology ... needed for either." That, inconveniently, is what UN weapons inspectors maintained all along.

But those inspectors were not only dismissed by Cheney as Saddam's useful idiots, they were actually bullied by him. Former Assistant Secretary of State James Rubin wrote in Foreign Affairs that when Cheney met with Hans Blix and Mohamed ElBaradei, the two most prominent UN inspectors, he bluntly told them that if the Bush administration found fault with their judgment, "We will not hesitate to discredit you." It now appears it's Cheney who's been discredited.

In The New Yorker, Seymour Hersh reports that Cheney dismissed intelligence that did not fit his preconceived notions and seized on reports that validated his views. Cheney, of course, was not alone. He had Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, his deputy Paul Wolfowitz and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice on his side. But Cheney was in a class of his own. Not only did he trample over intelligence procedures - helped, incidentally, by compliant CIA Director George Tenet - he repeatedly issued Chicken Little warnings. He put things in absolute terms. "We do know, with absolute certainty, that he [Saddam] is using his procurement system to acquire the equipment he needs in order to enrich uranium to build a nuclear weapon," Cheney said a year ago.

We knew no such thing.

Cheney was a University of Wisconsin graduate student during the Vietnam era and, by his own admission, took little notice of the antiwar movement. If he had, he might have discerned that it was animated by the incessant fudging and lying of the Johnson administration - everything from concocted body counts to the discredited domino theory.

Now Cheney has become a player in yet another dismal effort to mislead Americans. As with Vietnam, issues of candor and judgment are beginning to obscure worthy war aims. It's good that Saddam is gone. It's not good that the road to Baghdad was paved with deception.

It is hard to know whether Cheney's assertions were purposeful or the product of a true believer's faith. Either way, the always-smug Cheney has much to answer for.

He has failed as Bush's brain. Let's hope he is not his conscience, too.

Doesn't Cheney also have a large bit piece of some of those oil reconstruction firms?? (i.e. the one that got the largest reconstruction contract).

I'm glad the US media seems to now be reporting both sides of things.

Americans (most of them anyway) are finally starting to figure out what the rest of the world (and a select few Americans) knew beforehand. You don't win a country's love by bombing the crap out of them for 2 weeks and then run in throwing military rations to the homeless thousands that...Gee whiz! weren't homeless before you ruined their country for the 3 time in 2 decades. Another surefire way to ruin relations is to basically turn their entire country into a prison camp, with checkpoints just about every 10 feet (exageration, I know) and random house to house searches in the middle of the night and taking fathers and husbands away with bags on their heads. Its a miracle its taken most people this long to see that this war was a dumb idea that cost thousands of people their lives.

Just a quick thought, but who else thinks we'll find WMDs right before the 2004 election? Anyone?

Adrian

i was selected in NDA(national defence academy) on the state level...but they rejected me in the national level....personally war can never be a solution to anything....& i thank the instructors who failed me..i"m sorry i can"t kill anyone....

iran not japan

George has to have something to get him in again...his approval rating is dropping fast. Less than 50% think he is doing a good job and yesterday's helicopter killing of the military by a rocket doesn't make it look like they have a handle on Iraq at all.