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Old 11-20-2010, 10:46 PM
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The Promise is the first time this music has been released for public consumption.
Officially yes, but not the first time we've heard the songs.

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I'd agree there's often a risk of a trade off between energy and spirit and "polish", but the logical extension of your argument is that every artist should just release their demos and be done with it, which *does* work in some instances (!), but I'm sure you're familiar with the saying that art is never finished it's just taken away from you, whether that be literature, music or visual art.
Yes, sometimes demos are better than the finished product. I think Bon Jovi demos prove that very well. The stuff that's on the box set is a lot better than the polished turds they put out on albums. They've scrapped great songs and polished pieces of shit for albums.

And I was waiting for an unreleased album from 1978, not a polished, toned down music, "fixed" in 2010. As much as I love Bruces music, he can't touch what he did in the 70s and 80s nowadays. The passion is not there anymore, although he still enjoys what he does.

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Old 11-21-2010, 02:16 PM
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Yes, sometimes demos are better than the finished product. I think Bon Jovi demos prove that very well. The stuff that's on the box set is a lot better than the polished turds they put out on albums. They've scrapped great songs and polished pieces of shit for albums.
You raise an interesting example with Jovi demos - the box set and boots show pretty powerfully how a few tweeks to medlies and lyrics can really improve a song, and the care the band (and their writers!) put into a finished tune.

The hard side of that to deal with is the strong sense that they have chosen the middle of the road stance they take these days very carefully and worked hard to achieve it. ****ers.
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:16 PM
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I was DJing last night and a downright stunning girl was giving me the chat all night. I think I might keep my facial hair full time because I got a tonne of attention in Egypt when I had a bit of a beard in April?!?

Anyways all of her friends were asking for crap like NeYo etc... and she finally asked if she could have a song played.

She asked for the River.

I was like eh Bruce? thinking Cheryl Cole or some other noneity had put a tune out called the River.

It turned out she was a massive Bruce fan. I told her it wasn't really a 12:30 @ a 21st tune but I'd play her some cheesy Bruce everyone would dance to. She seemed happy enough with that.

I swear I would have proposed to that girl there and then if I wasn't attached.

Anyways what's the chat with Bruce I've not been paying attention to the thread recently but I've mustered together some gossip about:

A boxset
A darkness re-issue ./special editino or somethign like that
And some newish album using old material or something.

Am I thinking about one and the same thing or is there a few new things out just now?
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:22 PM
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A boxset
A darkness re-issue ./special editino or somethign like that
And some newish album using old material or something.

Am I thinking about one and the same thing or is there a few new things out just now?
Jim - You're missing out. It's ALL of the above in a single boxset. I bought a 3 CD and 3 Blu-ray version.

There is a remastered version of the original album - Darkness
There is a 2 CD set of previously unreleased songs from the era (1976-1979)
The is a documentary Blu-ray which shows how obsessed Bruce is with just "getting it right"
There is a Blu-ray of the band in 2009 playing the entire Darkness album live in Asbury Park
And last but not least there is a Blu-ray of a Houston 1978 concert (which I just got done watching last night)

Then there is the packaging which will blow you away.

This is not a cheap set but if you can afford it run - don't walk and pick up a copy.
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:02 PM
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Jim - You're missing out. It's ALL of the above in a single boxset. I bought a 3 CD and 3 Blu-ray version.

There is a remastered version of the original album - Darkness
There is a 2 CD set of previously unreleased songs from the era (1976-1979)
The is a documentary Blu-ray which shows how obsessed Bruce is with just "getting it right"
There is a Blu-ray of the band in 2009 playing the entire Darkness album live in Asbury Park
And last but not least there is a Blu-ray of a Houston 1978 concert (which I just got done watching last night)

Then there is the packaging which will blow you away.

This is not a cheap set but if you can afford it run - don't walk and pick up a copy.

I wont be able to buy the boxset before Christmas cause I got a lot of things going on. But I want to know how the Houston 78 concert is? I like the setlist very much.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:42 AM
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I wont be able to buy the boxset before Christmas cause I got a lot of things going on. But I want to know how the Houston 78 concert is? I like the setlist very much.
I have to say it's f ucking awesome? It doesn't have the musicality that Bruce and his band has these days - but the intensity and passion - my god - it's awesome.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:45 AM
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For those who are interested I have posted Bruce's only TV appearance on Jimmy Fallon on dime. It's the complete HD transport stream with commercials edited out.

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-d....php?id=332234

Note to mods - this is not a direct file sharing download link - it's just a location. However if you feel that this violates the rules by all means delete it.
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Quick heads up; The Promise is Radio 2s album of the week this week so expect five songs ;d
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:12 PM
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I love the Bruce Notebook in the boxset. I think it is one of the boxset I have ever bought.
It was great to hear Bruce nearly 2 hr interview on Sirius with Bruce joking about Darkness Album as he wrote it years ago and he can never make Steve
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The whole boxset is also available on ITUNES for $69 for ppl who dont want to spend $100 on BLYRAY Version
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:56 PM
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I have to say it's f ucking awesome? It doesn't have the musicality that Bruce and his band has these days - but the intensity and passion - my god - it's awesome.

Thank you Kathleen! With other words it sounds like the concert is all I hoped it would be. Can't wait to get my hands on it!
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