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I 100 percent agree with you. However, it is still a song worthy of getting in good quality to complete our collection. |
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My best guess is that there is completed footage of Fighter For Love from Access however that is the only recording of that song by Jon / Richie. I would love to hear the verses that make that up. I did rip the chorus and it's part of my audio collection. I actually did that with all the audio from Access. The longer songs I left as stand alones and I made a mix for all the shoter ones. |
Can't Felipe just take the best know audio of Cadillac Man, which is the one from Japan, and enhance it?
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I'm just a curious guy about prodution, but there was a guy who did an amazing work with "Keep me hanging on" from Hammersmith Odeon gig (1990) and this guy would be able to do a real professional job. If anyone knows him, try to contact. |
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The audience is not in the way like some of the others aka The Soul Truth and it's actually a decent recording. It just needs a good production. More bass and Jon's vocals seem a little distant. I wish I had the ear and know how to fix these type of songs up myself. |
Obie said to a friend last year in Rio that they didn't used to record all the shows, and when they did, they didn't record all the songs. They started doing it in the last few years. For example, the whole Argentina 2010 gig isn't on tape, he said.
Maybe they don't have a good quality version of Cadillac Man to release. Or maybe they'll put it on a Keep The Faith deluxe release or boxset because of all the demos they have for New Jersey. |
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I'll sent you the version of CM I have remastered from Osaka to start with since it doesn't seem to satisfy Rdkopper :D |
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I would just like to see that version contain more bass and Jon's vocals sound a little distant |
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Sometimes when you're pounding your head over sth like that for hours you tend to get lost at some point :D |
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I didn't realize that u were the one who cleaned it up. I just thought it was a different source. That's why i suggested someone to master it. Okay, now i get it. And just for the record, that version is miles better than anything I've ever heard thur far so excellent job! I just want that perfect soundboard sound and my greed is kicking in :D But thanks again Pal. |
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This is the "keep me hanging on" version that I was talking about. |
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I remember listening to this one and being puzzled about how this guy did it - I honestly didn't find a way to get to that sound from my source files. Maybe he had a different source than the common one to begin with? |
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Maybe a better source, but I think it was edited from the source that we have just because it's sounding like it was re-equalized. There's an amazing software that makes miracles and it calls SpectraLayers Pro by Sony. You can, for example, extract just the voice of a single mixed track by erasing some frequencies or maybe remove the background music from a movie scene. |
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It makes me so sad to see how they were able to do such amazing covers and nowadays they can't even pull of their own songs... |
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There are simple programs / ways to make changes to any song. Winmix is a simple program. Heck, you could make adjustments in Nero but I would not call each change a 'remaster' per say. Most of my bootlegs have some sort of subtle changes that I did myself but not enough to make a significant impact. |
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The good thing about it is that we have the chance to start some real improvements on many audience recordings. But how? lol |
I've had a bit of a go at remastering Cadillac Man from Osaka if anyone wants a listen. I've tried to boost the vocals a bit, lower the acoustic guitars a little and generally just balance it/clean it up.
Here you go --> http://we.tl/ewfJnyhBa0 Edit: What I did forget to do was check the tuning! |
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I wonder if there will be lyrics in the booklet for the demos ? Hope so . It changes all the time but today im obsessed with Full moon high ... Cant wait !
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I doubt we will get lyrics. We didn't get it with the latest studio album in the UK.
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32-Page Booklet includes: Original album credits Original album lyrics Bonus track credits and lyrics Rare images of the band from the era Images of memorabilia from the worldwide New Jersey tour Images of “Sons Of Beaches” sessions tape boxes and band notes Essay by band historian Ilene Schreibman |
I wonder when they will announce the following commemorative releases. Hopefully have a deluxe edition of Slippery When Wet, Keep The Faith, These Days, Crush, and Have a Nice Day.
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We all know that the most reliable website about copyright in the USA is the U.S. Copyright Office in Washington and the most reliable website in the States about writers and publishers is the The American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers also known as ASCAP.
Their webpages are public and allow people to make searches. Obviously they require registration to submit works and to see the applications forms sent, but the most important thing is that all the applications sent to the copyright office and/or to the ASCAP to be recorded, proof the existence of the work. And the property of it. U.S. COPYRIGHT OFFICE (http://www.copyright.gov/) In this site, "Search Records" allows to find all the recorded applications sent to the office to be recorded. http://cocatalog.loc.gov My quick searches had been made by random key words using all the search options given, both in "Basic Search" and "Other Search Options" Here is what I got using "Bongiovi, John, Jr., 1962-". The results are pretty interesting, aren't they ? 1983: 01. Breakout Registration Number / Date: PAu000546821 / 1983-09-20 Title: Breakout. Description: 1 sound cassette. Copyright Claimant: Metaphor Music Date of Creation: 1983 Authorship on Application: words & music: John Bongiovi, Jr. & David Rashbaum 02. Burning for love Registration Number / Date: PAu000546825 / 1983-09-20 Title: Burning for love. Description: 1 sound cassette. Copyright Claimant: Metaphor Music, Ltd. Date of Creation: 1983 Authorship on Application: words & music: John Bongiovi, Jr. & Richard Sambora 03. Come back Registration Number / Date: PAu000546822 / 1983-09-20 Title: Come back. Description: 1 sound cassette. Copyright Claimant: Metaphor Music Date of Creation: 1983 Authorship on Application: words & music: John Bongiovi, Jr. & Richard Sambora 04. Get ready Registration Number / Date: PAu000546820 / 1983-09-20 Title: Get ready. Description: 1 sound cassette. Copyright Claimant: Metaphor Music, Ltd. Date of Creation: 1983 Authorship on Application: words & music: John Bongiovi, Jr. & Richard Sambora 05. Heartbreak in your eyes Registration Number / Date: PAu000487492 / 1983-03-08 Title: Heartbreak in your eyes. Description: 1 sound cassette + lyrics (1 p.) Copyright Claimant: Metaphor Music, Ltd. Date of Creation: 1983 Authorship on Application: words & music: John Bongiovi, Jr. 06. Love lies Registration Number / Date: PAu000487491 / 1983-03-08 Title: Love lies. Description: 1 sound cassette + lyrics (1 p.) Copyright Claimant: Metaphor Music, Ltd. Date of Creation: 1983 Authorship on Application: words & music: John Bongiovi, Jr. & David Rashbaum 07. Only one Registration Number / Date: PAu000546823 / 1983-09-20 Title: Only one. Description: 1 sound cassette. Copyright Claimant: Metaphor Music Date of Creation: 1983 Authorship on Application: words & music: John Bongiovi, Jr. & Richard Sambora 08. Roulette Registration Number / Date: PAu000546824 / 1983-09-20 Title: Roulette. Description: 1 sound cassette. Copyright Claimant: Metaphor Music, Ltd. Date of Creation: 1983 Authorship on Application: words & music: John Bongiovi, Jr. & Richard Sambora 09. Shot through the heart Type of Work: Music Registration Number / Date: PAu000487490 / 1983-03-08 Title: Shot through the heart. Description: 1 sound cassette + lyrics (1 p.) Copyright Claimant: Metaphor Music, Ltd. Date of Creation: 1983 Authorship on Application: words & music: John Bongiovi, Jr. & Jack Ponti I also took a quick look at the results of other searches like "Aggressive Music" and "Sambora, Richard" : Registration Number / Date: PAu001112987 / 1988-07-08 Title: Dirty fingers / music by Richie Sambora. Description: 1 sound cassette + lead sheet. Copyright Claimant: New Jersey Underground Music, Inc. Date of Creation: 1988 Document Number: V2876P037 Date of Recordation: 1993-03-29 Entire Copyright Document: V2876P037-038 Date of Execution: 8Jun92 Notes: By Richie Sambora, with other co-writers as noted. Assignment of copyright and exclusive administration rights. Party 1: Richard Sambora (Richie Sambora) d.b.a. Aggressive Music. Party 2: PolyGram International Publishing, Inc. (successor-in-interest to PRI Music, Inc.) List of titles: *** 001 ** One night understanding / Co-writer: Desmond Child. *** 002 ** Forever mine. *** 003 ** Pain where there once was a heart. *** 004 ** If I can't have your love / Co-writers: Desmond Child & Diane Warren. Document Number: V3257P021 Date of Recordation: 1996-07-18 Entire Copyright Document: V3257P021 (Single page document) Date of Execution: 14Jun96 Title: God is a girl & 1 other title; musical compositions. Notes: By Richie Sambora & Thomas Marolda. Assignment of copyright and exclusive administration rights. Party 1: Richard Sambora d.b.a. Aggressive Music. Party 2: PolyGram International Publishing, Inc., as successor-in-interest to PRI Music, Inc. List of titles: *** 001 ** God is a girl. *** 002 ** Unprotected. Document Number: V3313P014 Date of Recordation: 1996-11-21 Entire Copyright Document: V3313P014 (Single page document) Date of Execution: 14Oct96 Title: In it for love & 1 other title; musical compositions. Notes: By Richie Sambora & Richie Supa. Assignment of copyright and exclusive administration rights. Party 1: Richard Sambora d.b.a. Aggressive Music. Party 2: PolyGram International Publishing, Inc., as successor-in-interest to PRI Music, Inc. List of titles: *** 001 ** In it for love. *** 002 ** Hall of fame. Document Number: V3200P022 Date of Recordation: 1996-01-19 Entire Copyright Document: V3200P022-023 Date of Execution: 6Dec95 Title: Never learn; musical composition / By Richie Sambora & Sabelle Breer. Notes: Assignment of copyright and exclusive administration rights. Party 1: Richard Sambora, individually & d.b.a. Aggressive Music. Party 2: PolyGram International Publishing, Inc., successor-in-interest to PRI Music, Inc. List of titles: *** 001 Never learn Document Number: V3453D898 Date of Recordation: 2000-06-12 Entire Copyright Document: V3453 D898 P1-4 Date of Execution: as of 1Jan00 Title: 30 titles; musical compositions / By Richie Sambora & co-authors as noted. Notes:Assignment. Party 1: Richie Sambora d.b.a. Aggressive Music. Party 2: WB Music Corporation. List of titles: 001 Made in America / Co-author, Richie Supa. 002 Hard times come easy / Co-author, Richie Supa. 003 Fallen from Graceland / Co-authors, Richie Supa & David Bryan. 004 You're not alone / Co-author, Thomas Morolda. 005 Undiscovered soul / Co-author, Richie Supa. 006 In it for love / Co-author, Richie Supa. 007 If God was a woman / Co-authors, Richie Supa & David Bryan. 008 All that really matters / Co-author, Richie Supa. 009 Chained / Co-authors, Thomas Morolda & Ernie White. 010 Downside of love / Co-authors, Richie Supa & David Bryan. 011 Harlem rain / Co-author, Richie Supa. 012 Who I am / Co-author, Marti Frederiksen. 013 Con air (hidden track) Co-author, Richie Supa. 014 Rest in peace / Co-author, David Bryan. 015 Church of desire. 016 Stranger in this town / Co-author, David Bryan. 017 Ballad of youth / Co-author, Thomas Morolda. 018 One light burning / Co-authors, B. Foster & Thomas Morolda. 019 Mr. Bluesman. 020 Rosie / Co-authors, Jon Bon Jovi, D. Child & D.Warren. 021 River of love. 022 Father time / Co-author, D. Child. 023 The answer / Co-author, B. Foster. 024 One night understanding / Co-author, D. Child. 025 Best days of my life / Co-author, Thomas Morolda. 026 Great hall of fame / Co-author, Richie Supa. 027 Black and blue / Co-authors, Richie Supa & David Bryan. 028 Going it alone / Co-author, D. Child. 029 Pain where there once was a heart. 030 If I can't have your love / Co-authors, D. Child & Diane Warren. http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/doc....cgi?V3453D898 2005: Document : V3522 D721 P1-16 Document title: 113 titles; musical compositions / composed by Richard S. Sambora, with co-composers as noted. http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/doc....cgi?V3522D721 As I already said we could also try ASCAP (http://www.ascap.com/) archives. https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx Section - Writers: BONGIOVI JOHN F - 400 results found SAMBORA RICHARD S - 342 results found |
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Why is NJ Delxue not mentioned on BJ.com?
It's nowhere to be found on bonjovi.com. Weird. I would think it would be in the news section as an upcoming release.
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The release date seems to be July 1. They're probably going to do a formal marketing rollout soon.
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Um , so i just got full moon high on i tunes australia . Very dissapointed . Somethings way wrong . Too much bass and drums ..... Guitar almost non exsistent and its way faster . Jon sounds like a chipmunk . Its like obie took Richie out . Bootleg way better . Homebound train was great . This one is terrible :(
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The only part where Jon sounded like a chipmunk to me was when he says ''Pretend I'm VALENTINO'',indeed that valentino sounds like it has auto-tune or something...But overall i love it,it's in the original key,Jons vocals are very clear and I can't wait to hear the guitar solo! Really looking forward to other previews,hope the next one will be Backdoor To Heaven. |
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I dont know how to share links ect .... Sorry . On like 10th listen and just thinks its too fast ! Anyway .... All cool .
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