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Nige 02-01-2018 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1233841)
Wow, I had no idea they ever did this in original key! And not only that, but Jon goes long on the "Aaaaaai believe" on the chorus, just like the chorus. Absolutely mindblowing performance.

Although it is not hard to tell why this was downtuned in later performances - even at Jon's absolute vocal apex it was not easy for him to sing it!

Thanks for sharing this!

It's more a case of sustaining his voice over a 2 hour+ concert and multiple show tours rather than him not being able to do it for one song. Obviously I mean 1993 Jon by that.

DavetheGodofKeys 02-01-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1233820)
Love this song and cant believe (No pun!) its not played live anymore.
Maybe he cant sing it anymore but id rather this than anything off LH, TC or THINFS

If he tries to sing it on the 2018 leg of the tour, he'll sound even worse than 2015.

BJFan99 02-01-2018 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1233803)
Did you intend to post the link for BOR? I was talking about MGLBIMA.

Oops... no, I meant to post a MGLBIMA performance from Austria '96, but I had the BOR link open at the same time and accidentally put it on two different posts. This is the video I meant to post originally:

https://youtu.be/7T3RhHArKdw

Shit happens, eh? :D

DavetheGodofKeys 02-01-2018 09:15 PM


Good show with a great setlist, Jon even does one of th high screams in the key change of Prayer.

BJFan99 02-01-2018 09:25 PM

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Good show with a great setlist, Jon even does one of th high screams in the key change of Prayer.

And here's the video itself:

https://youtu.be/n_JsDZ3jAcQ

WTF????? Tokyo Road performed in 1995???

Was Jon on weed or something? I know, it's a Japan show, but still...

BJFan99 02-01-2018 09:27 PM

Here's the Atlantic City '06 show:

https://youtu.be/z_ttxAIix14

Holy shit, Jon sounded awesome on HAND! Definitely one of the best live versions of the song I've ever heard. Btw, Radio works surprisingly well as the third song of the set.

BJFan99 02-01-2018 09:59 PM

The full Nashville '17 show:

https://youtu.be/Rx5wCsQEpDI

Jon sounds really bad. REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BAD.

During the (low-pitched) verses of Roller Coaster he struggles mightily to control his tone and his voice cracks plenty of times.

On Who Says his voice is so weak it's laughable.

His voice cracks pretty audibly on the first chorus of Blood On Blood.

He grips the mic stand during the choruses of Because We Can (!!!) and actually runs out of breath a couple of times - I MEAN, ON F***ING BWC!!!!!

Wanted is vocally a joke - and a poor one at that. Prayer isn't any better.

That must be the worst show I've ever heard from the band in terms of Jon's vocals. Christ, even Vegas '12, Tampere/Madrid/Brisbane '13 and Seoul '15 were better, and they were atrocious as well...

As a whole, I so wish that the THINFS tour never happened. 34 shows in, we've gotten TEN shows that have honestly been good - and still, none of them have come anywhere close to the level of even the more mediocre shows of any previous tour (save maybe for the Japan + Australia legs in 2013).

The good/"good" shows of the tour so far have been:

* Phoenix
* LA/Inglewood
* St. Paul
* Philadelphia
* Toronto (both nights)
* MSG (both nights)
* Rio
* Sao Paulo

10 out of 34. That makes 24 mediocre/poor/f***ing horrible gigs.

Compare this to the 2011 European tour, where out of all the 23 shows, 19 were good (at least), one was mediocre (Horsens, but that was only due to the uninteresting set list, which was a result of Jon's knee injury), two were quite poor (Munich and Zurich - the first because of Jon's largely below-par vocals and the second because of the horrendous set list) and one was very poor (Dusseldorf, where pretty much everything went more or less wrong).

Anybody notice the difference?

https://youtu.be/ci9doTyxqlI

I certainly do, and I can't help feeling sad about it. I know it's not Jon's fault, but still...

Jeeper 02-01-2018 10:38 PM

Jon is a shadow of the performer he once was. His voice is mostly embarrassing now, his stage presence all but gone. It’s actually sad to see and worse to hear. I cringe at the thought of him performing certain songs.

But I’m still a fan. Weird. Maybe it’s like supporting a football team that more often than not loses. You hope for the best but accept those moments are few and far between.



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BJFan99 02-01-2018 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1233868)
Jon is a shadow of the performer he once was. His voice is mostly embarrassing now, his stage presence all but gone. It’s actually sad to see and worse to hear. I cringe at the thought of him performing certain songs.

But I’m still a fan. Weird. Maybe it’s like supporting a football team that more often than not loses. You hope for the best but accept those moments are few and far between.



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Same for me. Actually, I think the real Jon doesn't even exist anymore - y'know, that guy who made his last appearance at the Hyde Park in London on July 5, 2013:

https://youtu.be/VNtLjw1DKsM

Ladies and gentlemen, that was probably the last time Jon actually SANG a song live. As sad as it is to admit, that noise coming out of his mouth during the songs nowadays can't be called singing (with few-and-far-between exceptions happening every now and then, such as BOR and LYHOM in Rio '17).

I'd love to know what Seb thinks about that Nashville show... :D

bonjovi90 02-01-2018 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1233864)
And here's the video itself:

https://youtu.be/n_JsDZ3jAcQ

WTF????? Tokyo Road performed in 1995???

Was Jon on weed or something? I know, it's a Japan show, but still...

Tokyo Road was also played in 1993 in Japan. It was only from the Bounce tour onwards that the song actually got ignored (with the odd exception in Honolulu 2010).


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