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TheseDaysEra 05-23-2013 10:18 PM

by the way, Sambo's latest tweet:

Richie Sambora ‏@TheRealSambora 2 h
Just to be clear,I've been running the fashion company for 5 Yrs. It does not take me away from the band,I'm an artist first. Always will be.


:rolleyes:

TwinFan 05-23-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDaysEra (Post 1132820)
by the way, Sambo's latest tweet:

Richie Sambora ‏@TheRealSambora 2 h
Just to be clear,I've been running the fashion company for 5 Yrs. It does not take me away from the band,I'm an artist first. Always will be.


:rolleyes:

Dude. That news is like 7 pages old. :p

ezearis 05-23-2013 10:26 PM

If Richie does leave the band should we rename the thread to "No Richie on current band lineup" or just rename it to "No Richie on current album" and then rename it again to "No Richie on current leg of Tour"?

milomom 05-23-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1132825)
If Richie does left the band should we rename the thread to "No Richie on current band lineup" or just rename it to "No Richie on current album" and then rename it again to "No Richie on current leg of Tour"?

Let's do a poll! :multi:

Sissy3 05-23-2013 10:30 PM

I don't care what you rename it, just be sure it makes it to 500. And I'm totally up for another poll. :D

WillRunForChocolate 05-23-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1132825)
If Richie does leave the band should we rename the thread to "No Richie on current band lineup" or just rename it to "No Richie on current album" and then rename it again to "No Richie on current leg of Tour"?

Richie who?? :)

crashed 05-23-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1132795)
I think it is all Dave's fault.

Because he sacrificed Richie's poodle in the name of satan and then wore it as a hairpiece.

Kriegentragen 05-23-2013 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillRunForChocolate (Post 1132830)
Richie who?? :)

Richie Samboringo, or Sambongo, or whatever.

crashed 05-23-2013 10:35 PM

Personally I'm blaming Tico, anyone that cool has to be satan.

ezearis 05-23-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1132795)
I think it is all Dave's fault.

Makes sense to me. As Nixon said: "you can't trust the jews".

CharlieShipley 05-23-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1132819)
Because it's Jovitalk.

We could do a series of commercials, like "This Is Sportscenter" but "Because It's JoviTalk"

Kriegentragen 05-23-2013 10:46 PM

Maybe is because of this new phase of the Jovidrama that "We got it going on" isn't played.

If this gets worse, I think there will be no "Getting down with Big and Rich and Richie and Jon" anymore...

Sissy3 05-23-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieShipley (Post 1132836)
We could do a series of commercials, like "This Is Sportscenter" but "Because It's JoviTalk"

Maybe the name should be changed to FashionTalk. ;)

ticos_stick 05-23-2013 10:51 PM

All will be revealed in Bobby's upcoming autobiography 'Stealing A Living'

faith1985 05-23-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1132842)
All will be revealed in Bobby's upcoming autobiography 'Stealing A Living'

Since Richie is obviously gone for good (no doubt about that) I think it is time to give Bobby the Dry County solo!

Walleris 05-23-2013 10:55 PM

Regarding the thread title, no matter what happens, it should remain the same. It's the iconic part of old messages and threads. The original titles should never be changed, just for archives sake.

CharlieShipley 05-23-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sissy3 (Post 1132841)
Maybe the name should be changed to FashionTalk. ;)

Ep1: "Poodle Hair: the new look for fall w. David Bryan."

crashed 05-23-2013 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kriegentragen (Post 1132839)
Maybe is because of this new phase of the Jovidrama that "We got it going on" isn't played.

If this gets worse, I think there will be no "Getting down with Big and Rich and Richie and Jon" anymore...

That could be the one good thing that comes out of this mess.

ticos_stick 05-23-2013 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1132843)
Since Richie is obviously gone for good (no doubt about that) I think it is time to give Bobby the Dry County solo!

Excellent call.

I think people would orgasm at the mere sight of his agonised joyous face as he blazed through the solos. He deserves his moment in the spotlight too.

steel_horse75 05-23-2013 11:02 PM

Eddie trunk reckons that all will be revealed soon.

Mysterytrain 05-23-2013 11:05 PM

I was just thinking:

What if Richie just grew tired of being second-in-command to Jon? After all, he said his solo album was the most rewarding thing he's ever done in his career. He's seemed (as far as I can tell, at least) sober and happy since 'Aftermath' came out. There were the subtle digs he seemed to give toward Bon Jovi and their output at various times during the promotion of 'Aftermath.' He seemed to enjoy his solo tour (despite the canceled gigs later on, for whatever reason).

So, maybe he got back to Bon Jovi and missed the feeling of being his own boss and in charge of his own musical/creative output. Also, maybe Richie was newly confident/assertive and maybe that caused Jon and Richie to clash in a way they hadn't before. Jon had said Richie would get to perform some of his solo songs during the 'WAN" tour (Richie had mentioned this in interviews, as well), but, perhaps tellingly, Richie's last appearance with Bon Jovi was where he sang "IBTFY" as a solo in Lubbock, Texas, rather than one of his own songs). Maybe that was, in a sense, the final straw --maybe Richie simply didn't feel supported by Jon, and in the end, didn't want to come back on the next leg of the tour to more of the same.

Maybe the combination of sobriety and therapy made him re-assess his own life and the direction in which it was headed, and he had decided he had to make changes.

I know portions of this have been discussed elsewhere in this thread, but I'm curious if any of you see a possibility of Richie's leaving coming from a place of happiness/thriving/mental and physical health on Richie's part.

crashed 05-23-2013 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysterytrain (Post 1132860)
I was just thinking:

What if Richie just grew tired of being second-in-command to Jon? After all, he said his solo album was the most rewarding thing he's ever done in his career. He's seemed (as far as I can tell, at least) sober and happy since 'Aftermath' came out. There were the subtle digs he seemed to give toward Bon Jovi and their output at various times during the promotion of 'Aftermath.' He seemed to enjoy his solo tour (despite the canceled gigs later on, for whatever reason).

So, maybe he got back to Bon Jovi and missed the feeling of being his own boss and in charge of his own musical/creative output. Also, maybe Richie was newly confident/assertive and maybe that caused Jon and Richie to clash in a way they hadn't before. Jon had said Richie would get to perform some of his solo songs during the 'WAN" tour (Richie had mentioned this in interviews, as well), but, perhaps tellingly, Richie's last appearance with Bon Jovi was where he sang "IBTFY" as a solo in Lubbock, Texas, rather than one of his own songs). Maybe that was, in a sense, the final straw --maybe Richie simply didn't feel supported by Jon, and in the end, didn't want to come back on the next leg of the tour to more of the same.

Maybe the combination of sobriety and therapy made him re-assess his own life and the direction in which it was headed, and he had decided he had to make changes.

I know portions of this have been discussed elsewhere in this thread, but I'm curious if any of you see a possibility of Richie's leaving coming from a place of happiness/thriving/mental and physical health on Richie's part.

Oh yeah, that's a possibility - probably discussed at the beginning.

But - doing it in the middle of a tour he signed up for - somedays I hate my job too but I can't just walk out in the middle of it. Or I could, but I'd lose everything. Richie's loaded enough because of Bon Jovi that he doesn't have to worry about that.

If he wasn't "feeling it" sorry - but go through it til the end. He's been lazy as hell the last few years anyway, one more tour wouldn't make a difference.

CharlieShipley 05-23-2013 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysterytrain (Post 1132860)
I was just thinking:

What if Richie just grew tired of being second-in-command to Jon? After all, he said his solo album was the most rewarding thing he's ever done in his career. He's seemed (as far as I can tell, at least) sober and happy since 'Aftermath' came out. There were the subtle digs he seemed to give toward Bon Jovi and their output at various times during the promotion of 'Aftermath.' He seemed to enjoy his solo tour (despite the canceled gigs later on, for whatever reason).

So, maybe he got back to Bon Jovi and missed the feeling of being his own boss and in charge of his own musical/creative output. Also, maybe Richie was newly confident/assertive and maybe that caused Jon and Richie to clash in a way they hadn't before. Jon had said Richie would get to perform some of his solo songs during the 'WAN" tour (Richie had mentioned this in interviews, as well), but, perhaps tellingly, Richie's last appearance with Bon Jovi was where he sang "IBTFY" as a solo in Lubbock, Texas, rather than one of his own songs). Maybe that was, in a sense, the final straw --maybe Richie simply didn't feel supported by Jon, and in the end, didn't want to come back on the next leg of the tour to more of the same.

Maybe the combination of sobriety and therapy made him re-assess his own life and the direction in which it was headed, and he had decided he had to make changes.

I know portions of this have been discussed elsewhere in this thread, but I'm curious if any of you see a possibility of Richie's leaving coming from a place of happiness/thriving/mental and physical health on Richie's part.

*raises hand* THIS.

jessycardy 05-23-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysterytrain (Post 1132860)
I was just thinking:

What if Richie just grew tired of being second-in-command to Jon? After all, he said his solo album was the most rewarding thing he's ever done in his career. He's seemed (as far as I can tell, at least) sober and happy since 'Aftermath' came out. There were the subtle digs he seemed to give toward Bon Jovi and their output at various times during the promotion of 'Aftermath.' He seemed to enjoy his solo tour (despite the canceled gigs later on, for whatever reason).

So, maybe he got back to Bon Jovi and missed the feeling of being his own boss and in charge of his own musical/creative output. Also, maybe Richie was newly confident/assertive and maybe that caused Jon and Richie to clash in a way they hadn't before. Jon had said Richie would get to perform some of his solo songs during the 'WAN" tour (Richie had mentioned this in interviews, as well), but, perhaps tellingly, Richie's last appearance with Bon Jovi was where he sang "IBTFY" as a solo in Lubbock, Texas, rather than one of his own songs). Maybe that was, in a sense, the final straw --maybe Richie simply didn't feel supported by Jon, and in the end, didn't want to come back on the next leg of the tour to more of the same.

Maybe the combination of sobriety and therapy made him re-assess his own life and the direction in which it was headed, and he had decided he had to make changes.

I know portions of this have been discussed elsewhere in this thread, but I'm curious if any of you see a possibility of Richie's leaving coming from a place of happiness/thriving/mental and physical health on Richie's part.

That would be interesting. He's not missing because he's ill, he's missing because... he's ****ing great!
I see your point. But there's gotta be more to this.

ticos_stick 05-23-2013 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysterytrain (Post 1132860)
I
but I'm curious if any of you see a possibility of Richie's leaving coming from a place of happiness/thriving/mental and physical health on Richie's part.

It's possible that he thought extensive touring was a risk to his sobriety. He did fall off the wagon on the previous two tours.

Sissy3 05-23-2013 11:13 PM

If that were the case would it be so hard to come out and say "after 30 years I decided I didn't want to do what Jon said, I wanted to be my own man and so I'm taking a break from the brotherhood." Fans might not like it but it would be something. It's the silence (well, not so silent anymore :rolleyes:) that made it all so messy and confusing. And led to this mega-thread.

Becky 05-23-2013 11:20 PM

Fact is, Richie bailed on the tour and isn't showing up to work. He's the one letting down thousands of people. If Jon was so bad, Tico and Dave would have bailed long ago too. Richie is the one coming across as an unprofessional twat. If he wanted to pursue solo interests, he shouldn't have signed on for the tour to begin with. If any of us with real jobs behaved like Richie, we would have been fired long ago.

Neurotica80 05-23-2013 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1132867)
Fact is, Richie bailed on the tour and isn't showing up to work. He's the one letting down thousands of people. If Jon was so bad, Tico and Dave would have bailed long ago too. Richie is the one coming across as an unprofessional twat. If he wanted to pursue solo interests, he shouldn't have signed on for the tour to begin with. If any of us with real jobs behaved like Richie, we would have been fired long ago.

Becky said twat, this is bad! And I totally agree with all of the above, I admire Jons professionalism, I can book flights, hotels to see this band knowing the shows will happen. I can tell you now I wouldn't travel far to see a Richie show again.

Becky 05-23-2013 11:27 PM

I used to say I admired the band's professionalism, but Richie has totally lost my respect in that regard. You can't count on him for a band show or his solo shows. Jon, Tico, and Dave have a great work ethic. Dave played when his father died which went far beyond the call of duty.

ezearis 05-23-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1132843)
Since Richie is obviously gone for good (no doubt about that) I think it is time to give Bobby the Dry County solo!

OH GOD PLEASE NO.

ticos_stick 05-23-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1132867)
Fact is, Richie bailed on the tour and isn't showing up to work. He's the one letting down thousands of people. If Jon was so bad, Tico and Dave would have bailed long ago too. Richie is the one coming across as an unprofessional twat. If he wanted to pursue solo interests, he shouldn't have signed on for the tour to begin with. If any of us with real jobs behaved like Richie, we would have been fired long ago.

"Work" :rolleyes:

This is the exact kind of approach to Bon Jovi in recent years that has turned the band into nothing but a money making machine. Just show up, get paid and go home without causing a fuss and everything will be fine.

No one has the right to call anyone a twat until they know the truth.

Neurotica80 05-23-2013 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1132874)

No one has the right to call anyone a twat until they know the truth.

Richie has form in messing fans about in recent years though...

jovigirloz 05-23-2013 11:32 PM

This just makes me sad and angry all at once.

After a mostly wonderful relationship with the band for over 20 years, it is like it has run it's course and I am hanging on, hoping things get better, but in my heart I know it's near the end and there is not a thing I can do about it :(

Yvonne 05-23-2013 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1132874)

No one has the right to call anyone a twat until they know the truth.

Richie is a massive twat and I do not say that lightly, I agree with what Becky has said 1000%.

milomom 05-23-2013 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1132843)
Since Richie is obviously gone for good (no doubt about that) I think it is time to give Bobby the Dry County solo!

My soul just died. :(

CKatz 05-23-2013 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1132874)
"Work" :rolleyes:

This is the exact kind of approach to Bon Jovi in recent years that has turned the band into nothing but a money making machine. Just show up, get paid and go home without causing a fuss and everything will be fine.

No one has the right to call anyone a twat until they know the truth.

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better.

Neurotica80 05-23-2013 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yvonne (Post 1132880)
Richie is a massive twat and I do not say that lightly, I agree with what Becky has said 1000%.

And that's coming from the biggest RS fan I ever met. Sad times.

ticos_stick 05-23-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yvonne (Post 1132880)
Richie is a massive twat and I do not say that lightly, I agree with what Becky has said 1000%.

You're saying it lightly. You just called the man a twat when you have no idea why he's missing the tour. Knee jerk nonsense.

Neurotica80 05-23-2013 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1132885)
You're saying it lightly. You just called the man a twat when you have no idea why he's missing the tour. Knee jerk nonsense.

But you have to agree that he doesn't help himself with his bullshit tweets? He tied himself in knots late last year after screwing the US fans then blamed being hacked.

ticos_stick 05-23-2013 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neurotica80 (Post 1132876)
Richie has form in messing fans about in recent years though...

Do you actually think he went out of his way to mess with fans though? he missed shows due to rehab and cancelled some because of low ticket sales.

People seem to be forgetting the twenty plus years where he never missed a show.


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