No, that was interesting. Jon is always saying that the singing is what he does not who he is. So it was interesting that his kids were asking him who he was. I think that is a great conversation that parents should have with their kids. I knew my father as a parent who worked to support his family but not so much as a person when I was growing up.

Just speaking the truth dude.

And your last sentence is EXACTLY my point. The fact that they have NO idea is really bad.

I wasn't there so I am not 100% sure but I think he touched on it at the fanclub event to the vineyard. He said it was really personal and a letter to his kids.

I think they're just trying to buy time. *IF* someone is quitting, the confirmation will come after the tour.

I was not at the napa trip so I don't know - I know he introduced that song there but if I have seen the video about the song done there I am not sure I got the speech about it before ...I heard he mentioned his daughter there

Wonderful. Makes me miss Richie even more. Sigh.

So you think Richie will come back and quit after the tour or they are going to dance around this subject and say he'll be back....

I think once this leg ends and the next leg starts and his still not back, then we know his not coming back. Then things will change. I think now the fans have the attitude wait and see, still early days but once they are back on the next leg, none of this crap Richie will be back, its personal will work. The ones who want the refunds will go for them and its just going to be so noticeable later.

It has been noted that Richie's wardrobe trunk is still on the tour and travelling with the band. I take that as a good sign.

You know the real asshole here is Richie for not telling everyone his personal business. It's his fault Eric with a K is calling Jon the devil. And since I KNOW Richie is reading this board, I know he's seen Eric with a K's posts and he's doing nothing to stop it.

STOP THE INSANITY, RICHIE! STOP IT NOW!

I love this thread, so entertaining!:)

I think there's a possibility that he isn't coming back. Even if BJ camp knows he ain't coming back, they might be keeping it in the dark for a reason. If they keep the public in the dark, there for sure will be less refunds compared to situation where they'd actually announce departure of Rich. I think the case is either he does come back in the middle of the tour or they'll indeed dance around the matter for the rest of the tour. Joining the tour, I think, would mean there's no breakup coming. Fun, all this speculating, ain't it?

Like said, without Rich there isn't a band called Bon Jovi. Just Jon & "friends."