Originally Posted by Beaky (Post 1159375)

Unless you are Jon or Richie, you don't actually know that.

No one knows ANYTHING apart from what we're told and from there, it's what we choose to believe. Here are my facts, as only I see them...

1. RS bailed when he should have refused to tour in the first place. He's a tart.

2. WAN is an embarrassing collection of over-the-hill pap and the fact that Jon thinks it's relevant makes him look like a total bell end.

3. Jon's voice sucks and he's lost virtually all of his stage presence.

Beyond that... I'm guessing and so are you.

Originally Posted by CKatz (Post 1159376)

Jon telling Richie "no" would be the same as firing him from the tour. Jon denies this.
I agree 100% with the rest you said.

Originally Posted by CKatz (Post 1159374)

Jon never stood his ground and said "no". Richie left and didn't return.

Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1159378)

Says who? Richie himself said he would be back September time and wasn't.

We've heard numerous times now that Richie tried to get back on tour but Jon said 'no'

Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1159373)

but he needs to get his act together. Whether it be over drugs, whether it be over his input or whether it be about his dedication to the band. He needs to sort himself out. He has the opportunity to speak to whoever he wants now that the tour is over and Richie should make the first move.

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1159382)

I don't think that Richie ever gave a firm date. It was pretty much left up in the air as "we will see how it goes". It's possible that I missed a video with Richie being definite but considering how closely I followed this (yes I wanted Richie back), I don't think so.



And this is where I agree with you.

Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1159429)

He did. The first video (I think) of him talking about the band, he said he would be back in September. I'll have a look for it on YouTube.

Originally Posted by joloriquelme (Post 1159432)

While I see the Richie, Alice Cooper and Orianthi videos, I think:

Why the WAN record (and Tour) actually happened?

Why Sambora couldn't rest of the band and have his solo couple years? He seems happy and relaxed, doing whatever he wants. He earned the right to do that.

This crysis is actually Jon's fault.

Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1159373)

Who cares if Richie wanted to go back, by the way? He shouldn't be able to pick a certain time when to go back. He bailed out on everyone. Not just the band, everyone. At least Jon stood his ground and said 'no', for whatever reason that might be.