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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1161818)

Jon said in an interview that came out on Billboard Argentina that he and Richie sent themselves some emails because "you have to keep the business going", so at least they're talking now. Also, he discarted any new album or tour in the short notice.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...87442253_n.jpg

Thanks for this. The Business ... Shit.

I translated those two questions with their respective answers:

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This tour has had his problems. Tico Torres' health issues and the fact that Richie Sambora left the tour who knows why, but his band-mates continued. How hard it was?

The story here, and I'm being honest, and I've been being honest since then, is that Sambora left for personal reasons. And he's going to have to face the press someday and decide what he wants to say. Really, we never fired him. We don't even consider him fired right now. But if you get a call in the show number 21 and you're told "I'm not going" and it's 3:30 PM, when you stopped being just a band member and became a man who's name is on the marquee... You have a commitment with 20.000 persons, a tour team that has all they year planned, a record, and a company -AEG- who's counting on you, and fans that traveled all over the world to get there, to be there that night. And the same we did in the show 21 and in the show 97, we keep on doing. There're people that thinks that being in a band it's a commitment for life, but some decide not to take part of it, and that's OK, is their prerogative. I'm not mad with Richie because of that. There were no fights. In fact, we emailed each other last week. That's the truth of the story. We have to keep the business running.

Are you actually writing? There's more fuel for a new record and all that comes with it?

Not these days. I can assure you that. I need to turn off the engine for a while so I can catch my breath, recharge batteries and get back in the game. Mick Jagger will always be my role model. And until he doesn't put the "Retired" banner, I won't know when is the moment to do it. I'll keep on kicking the ball until Jagger says "we are for the gol area".

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Also, these are interesting as he speaks about the setlists, something we criticize a lot here:

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[...]There're times when one wants to play the dark songs of the album all night, but there're those guys that want to hear the greatest hits. The song list this tour has been a shorter than in previous tours. I know well why and it's not typical of me to do it. I used to be proud and say "We played 100 songs on the last tour" and when you have a 28 years old band it's easy to do it. But because of what we've been through this year, the setlist was restricted. And then one thinks: "well, there's a new generation hearing the band for the ferst time". If you're in a stadium you must play the hits. [...]

You toured almost all the world this year. Do you adapt the shows depending the musical culture of the place where you're playing?

Yes, sure, most of it, definitively, in Europe we offer a different show than the one we give in the United States. The European crowd pays more attention to the verses, while the north-american pays more attention to the chorus. We must apply that everywhere we go. There're albums that will be more important in an X place than in an Y place.

He also said that he can't see anything (and that's a bad sign), that he likes more playing on closed venues than in stadiums, and that Italy was great and South America fantastic, "South America is always worth it".

I won't translate everything as is really long and it's pretty hard to write with the cast in my hand.

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1161826)

Mick Jagger will always be my role model.

Of course, that explains a lot.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...le-in-new-book

Richards, 66, who met Jagger at the age of four, says he has not stepped foot in Jagger's dressing room in 20 years.

"It was the beginning of the Eighties when Mick started to become unbearable," Richards writes in the memoir, "Life," which brought him an advance of 4.8 million pounds ($7.7 million) after a massive bidding war among publishers.

Richards and Jagger were two of the Stones' founding members in 1962 and wrote its hit songs, leading the group to sales of more than 200 million albums worldwide.

"Sometimes I think: 'I miss my friend,'" Richards writes. "I wonder: 'where did he go?'"

But Richards told the Times that his bandmate had read the book and wanted to take out only one thing -- a reference to Jagger using a voice coach.

Richards refused, saying: "I'm trying to say the truth here."

He added about Jagger: "We've had our beefs but, hey, who doesn't? You try and keep something together for 50 years," adding the band was considering going on tour again.

"I think it's going to happen. I've had a chat with ... Her Majesty. Brenda."

Richie should write his memoirs with Bon Jovi.

"There were no fights. In fact, we emailed each other last week. That's the truth of the story. We have to keep the business running."

He´s making two different points. Keeping the business running is resuming why he kept the tour running, not why emailed Richie.

Anyway, great post and I like what he says, whether it is true or not I don´t know, but I think he´s right for the most part.

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Originally Posted by semigoodlookin (Post 1161956)

Yeah he is. I also get the impression that Richie has not disclosed all the reasons why and that he may have to at some point

New radio interview with Richie, he says his return with the band "remains to be seen":

http://www.4bc.com.au/blogs/2014-4bc...l#.Uvp6tYWGeXr

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1161826)

I won't translate everything as is really long and it's pretty hard to write with the cast in my hand.

Thanks for translating and posting this, ezearis. Much appreciated. :)

Off-topic I know, but why is your hand in a cast?

Its little wonder WAN and its accompanying tour were one of the more mediocre things the band have done. They need to get back to treating this the right way. The words "CEO", "Business", and "Work" have no place when referring to a rock n roll band.

How can a band release good work when they are hashing out underwhelming material and performances just to keep the brand alive. I know once a band becomes as big as Bon Jovi there is a certain inevitability that business has to come into it but let the label worry about that.

Until the members stop looking at this band like a 9-5 job we won't get any decent material.

https://soundcloud.com/harrytclarke/richie-sambora-wma Really good interview. Interesting points:

"THIS is more rock now"

Paraphrased but "They wanted to tour earlier then I did so I said go without me".

Doesn't regret his decision to leave the tour, he wasn't burnt out..

EDIT: He mentions "pacing" a LOT and goes back to why he left the tour numerous times, even when it's not brought up.

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1163293)

He didn't say go without me, he went then left, big difference. And so the "24/7 for 30 yrs" was just a bunch of bullshit.