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Captain_jovi 03-15-2014 04:49 PM

I was more focusing on him saying he'll never play it again. I remember reading the disdain they have for the first few albums but they've never said they'd never play the bigger hit from it again. It's just another example of him quitting the band without quitting it.

It seems Australia is the only place he'll do interviews that say he's quit the band and everywhere else he says he never quit. If you truly haven't quit you'd be correcting people you'd think.

Bounce7800 03-15-2014 04:49 PM

He can't stand playing Runaway but is quite happy playing garbage like Who Says?

Christ sake Richie, you may be sick of it through over-playing but god knows why the hate for the song. The first 2 albums as a whole maybe, but singling out the best song of the bunch is just stupid.

Seeing tweets from people responding with shit like "Great Richie, so glad he quit BJ, he shouldn't go back" really riles me up still too.

CKatz 03-15-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1172932)
I was more focusing on him saying he'll never play it again. I remember reading the disdain they have for the first few albums but they've never said they'd never play the bigger hit from it again. It's just another example of him quitting the band without quitting it.

It seems Australia is the only place he'll do interviews that say he's quit the band and everywhere else he says he never quit. If you truly haven't quit you'd be correcting people you'd think.

This bothers me as well. His actions make it clear he wants to be done with the band, he just
needs to make it more clear and not just drop hints in interviews.

JackieBlue 03-15-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1172907)
Aloha !



Meh, when I was archiving the radio interviews done in 1996 I remember a British DJ asking the band if they still enjoyed playing stuff like Runaway, and there was this deafening silence which really said it all, so it's nothing new here.

The only difference is that in 1996 it was just the few fans hearing the band talk on the radio, where as now it goes global and a guy from Canada hears about an interview done in Australia.

I wasn't following in '96, but I would think that another difference then would have been that the band seemed to be getting along, so there was no "feud" rumours that had ppl picking apart every statement looking for jabs or hidden messages, either.

Like the statement Richie made about Mick not touring without Keith but Jon seeing things differently. They've both alluded to the fact that they don't always look at things the same way others in the industry do. So yes, it could have been a jab; but it could also have been a simple statement about why Jon continued the tour.

There still seems to be some inconsistency about when ppl want to believe negatively perceived statements from either Jon or Richie when they appear in print as opposed to only giving credence to those where you actully watch the interviews on YT and can hear the entire context and make reasonable judgments about body language and tone.

golittleperson 03-15-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1172909)
So much for his memory which songs were originally his. Guy wasn't even in the band when that one was recorded, let alone written. (Which is probably why he's not too attached to it, but even more so, what an appaling way to word it then.)

My first reaction was that I bet every hit on a radio station it gets, and it still does he gladly signs that ASCAP check - but your right - that's probably Jon's check.

CKatz 03-15-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by golittleperson (Post 1172936)
My first reaction was that I bet every hit on a radio station it gets, and it still does he gladly signs that ASCAP check - but your right - that's probably Jon's check.

And George Karak's, who I think did most of the writing on that song.

JackieBlue 03-15-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CKatz (Post 1172944)
And George Karak's, who I think did most of the writing on that song.

Did any of the band play on Runaway? I thought I saw something recently that listed completely different guys who backed Jon on that.

Captain_jovi 03-15-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1172946)
Did any of the band play on Runaway? I thought I saw something recently that listed completely different guys who backed Jon on that.

Yeah. It's just Jon and some session players (that included Hugh).

JackieBlue 03-15-2014 05:42 PM

Runaway
 
Here it is:

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.n...2568700029076D

By the time he was 16, Jon was playing clubs. It was not long before he hooked up with keyboardist David Bryan (real name: David Brian Rashbaum), who played with him in a ten-piece rhythm and blues band called Atlantic City Expressway. Jon also performed with bands called The Rest, The Lechers and John Bongiovi and the Wild Ones.

Meanwhile, Richie Sambora was also performing locally with a funk and fusion outfit called Extremes, before hooking up with Alec John Such in the band The Message. After The Message broke up, Alec played with Tico Torres in Phantom's Opera.

The members of Bon Jovi hade crossed paths in these early days, but the current lineup didn't come together until March of 1983 after th first Bon Jovi single, "Runaway," had become a minor hit.

In one of those right place/right time/right person scenarios, Jon managed to get a job sweeping floors at a recording studio through a relative. His second cousin, Tony Bongiovi, was a co-owner of the power station in New York City. Jon had written "Runaway," and in 1980, he recorded a demo of the song at his cousin's studio, with back-up by studio musicians whom Tony had hired, including Frankie La Roca, Tim Pierce, Hugh McDonald and Roy Bittan.

A local radio station included "Runaway" on a compilation tape, and the song started getting some serious airplay. The success of "Runaway" got Jon noticed, and he realized that he'd need more than session players if he wanted to capitalize on his success by touring the New York clubs to support the single.

Jon gave Dave a call, who in turn tapped Alec and Tico. A succession of guitarists (including Dave "The Snake" Sabo, who went on to form Skid Row) followed, until finally Richie signed on, and the band came together as a whole. They began gigging around New York in earnest.

At one show, where they opened for Scandal, the band caught the attention of record exec Derek Shulman, who signed them to PolyGram. "With Jon, I felt he had an unbelievable desire to be a star", recalls Shulman. "he had a burning desire to be huge".

PolyGram toyed with the name, throwing out monikers like "Victor" then "Johnny Lightening", before Shulman anglicized John Bongiovi's name to Bon Jovi.

Their self-titled debut came out January 21, 1984. Filled with the group's now-signature power ballads and hooked-filled tunes underscored by soaring guitar riffs and well-crafted melodies, the album went gold (sales of over 500,000).

WillRunForChocolate 03-15-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1172557)
Jon looks like the president of the US in an early 90s b action movie.

Which is not a bad thing for a guy in his 50s.

This has no basis in reality but despite Jon swearing he has no political aspirations, it's possible he's letting a little more gray show to get some political "cred." Just a theory - don't shoot me :)


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