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Javier 03-15-2014 09:17 PM

What's Richie saying in the video about "??... Shannon wrote it before that and he did a lot better of a job with it"?? Is he taking a dig at how the song is a rip-off?? Weird Richie, weird.....

Becky 03-15-2014 11:12 PM

I wonder if Richie is still tied to a contract to Jon and the only reason we haven't heard official word that he's quit is that they're waiting out the contract? If Richie quits while he's still under contract, Jon could sue his pants off. (But I think Jon has the class to not do that.)

I wish they'd just say he's quit and that's that. Jon, Tico, and Dave and go on and be just fine without Richie and as long as Richie can hitch a ride on Orianthi's --or someone else's-- coattails he'll be fine too. He knew 30 years ago that Jon was a star and he wanted in on that and now he's found someone who's current to associate with. He'll never be a STAR on his own merits IMO. (Until he dies. Then critics will hail him as one of the greats.)

rolo_tomachi 03-15-2014 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1173020)
I wonder if Richie is still tied to a contract to Jon and the only reason we haven't heard official word that he's quit is that they're waiting out the contract? If Richie quits while he's still under contract, Jon could sue his pants off. (But I think Jon has the class to not do that.)

I wish they'd just say he's quit and that's that. Jon, Tico, and Dave and go on and be just fine without Richie and as long as Richie can hitch a ride on Orianthi's --or someone else's-- coattails he'll be fine too. He knew 30 years ago that Jon was a star and he wanted in on that and now he's found someone who's current to associate with. He'll never be a STAR on his own merits IMO. (Until he dies. Then critics will hail him as one of the greats.)

Bon Jovi became so big because was a great team. Now Jon does what he wants, there is no team, just business.

I need to Bon Jovi with Sambora, that is the true spirit of team. Making an album with Phil and Bobby sucks. Not to forget that only be three in the photo, Jon, David and Tico.

Let's wait a couple of years, and expect both to solve their problems.

JoviJovi 03-16-2014 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1173022)
Bon Jovi became so big because was a great team. Now Jon does what he wants, there is no team, just business.

I need to Bon Jovi with Sambora, that is the true spirit of team. Making an album with Phil and Bobby sucks. Not to forget that only be three in the photo, Jon, David and Tico.

Let's wait a couple of years, and expect both to solve their problems.

It's not going to happen if Richie keeps shooting his mouth off. And Becky was right, Richie will always have to latch on to somebody else to make any kind of impact.

DestinationJovi 03-16-2014 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1172923)
It's not surprising. But he has now progressed to talk about any Bon Jovi song when he's asked about stuff he (co)wrote. The whole "I wrote the songs in Bon Jovi"-schtick seems to have to his head if he can't even make the distinction for effing Runaway.

The text of the interview in the article misquoted the question. If you watch the video you'll see the question was are there any songs you're sick of playing. Songs he wrote was not part of the question.

DestinationJovi 03-16-2014 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1172990)
What's Richie saying in the video about "??... Shannon wrote it before that and he did a lot better of a job with it"?? Is he taking a dig at how the song is a rip-off?? Weird Richie, weird.....

That caught my attention too.

Also the way he lifted his drink at the end as if to say, "CHEERS!" No one lifts their soda like that unless there's alcohol in it.

JackieBlue 03-16-2014 03:00 AM

Just my opinion...
 
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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1173020)
I wonder if Richie is still tied to a contract to Jon and the only reason we haven't heard official word that he's quit is that they're waiting out the contract? If Richie quits while he's still under contract, Jon could sue his pants off. (But I think Jon has the class to not do that.)

I wish they'd just say he's quit and that's that. Jon, Tico, and Dave and go on and be just fine without Richie and as long as Richie can hitch a ride on Orianthi's --or someone else's-- coattails he'll be fine too. He knew 30 years ago that Jon was a star and he wanted in on that and now he's found someone who's current to associate with. He'll never be a STAR on his own merits IMO. (Until he dies. Then critics will hail him as one of the greats.)

First of all, you make it sound like Richie quit the band just so he could work with Orianthi because she's more current. The timing is just a leetle bit off for that to be the case, wouldn't you say? Or did he just wait for 9 months and pretend to meet Ori on New Years Eve, so nobody would guess that it was his master plan from the start?

It's true that Richie saw Jon's star quality and wanted to be a part of where he was going. He's said as much, repeatedly. I think that what people sometimes seem to forget, though, is that Jon hand-picked the team he believed would get him where he wanted to be, too. So in reality, he hitched his wagon to their stars, just as much as they did to his.

Personal opinion (because without a time machine we'll never know for sure): none of those guys would be as well-known as they are without the others. It was the magic that existed among all of them (along with Alec, Desmond, Bob, Doc, and the planets) that took Bon Jovi to the top; not Jon Bon Jovi's personal magnetism. As essential as that was to the "magic", it wasn't the only factor by a long shot. Tico said in an interview that it wasn't until Richie joined the band that "it began clicking." So who's to say?

When it comes to the critical acclaim you think Richie will receive only after he dies, do you also think that that's when Bon Jovi will finally get the "critical acclaim" they deserve? They've never had wide-spread critical approval no matter how good they were or how hard they worked. At least Richie has received some critical acclaim as one of the great rock guitarists. When was the last time any of the critics pointed out how great Jon's voice is, or David's keyboards, or Tico's drumming, for that matter?

Also personal opinion: I think you overestimate Jon's "class". I'm not saying that he's not classy because, from what I've seen, I believe he is. But I'd bet my last dollar that if he had a case against Richie, he'd be suing his pants off right now (and may be doing so for all we know). And from some of the statements Richie's making, I wouldn't be too sure that THAT door doesn't swing both ways as well. As I said, JMO.

JackieBlue 03-16-2014 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1173076)
That caught my attention too.

Also the way he lifted his drink at the end as if to say, "CHEERS!" No one lifts their soda like that unless there's alcohol in it.

Not saying that it's definitely not the case here, but for the record, I have lots of friends who do exactly that with non-alcoholic drinks. ;)

SuperBrad 03-16-2014 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1173076)
That caught my attention too.

Also the way he lifted his drink at the end as if to say, "CHEERS!" No one lifts their soda like that unless there's alcohol in it.

Ummmm yes they do .....

Rdkopper 03-16-2014 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1173081)
Personal opinion (because without a time machine we'll never know for sure): none of those guys would be as well-known as they are without the others. It was the magic that existed among all of them (along with Alec, Desmond, Bob, Doc, and the planets) that took Bon Jovi to the top; not Jon Bon Jovi's personal magnetism. As essential as that was to the "magic", it wasn't the only factor by a long shot. Tico said in an interview that it wasn't until Richie joined the band that "it began clicking." So who's to say?

You would need a crystal ball, not a time machine (unless you plan on changing the past by snipping off some of the band members).... I do agree that Bon Jovi was the perfect storm but Jon was a also a determined Mother F-er. I think somehow, someway he would have still been famous. Slippery might not have happened or other huge moments but I think Jon with the help of other talented people would have catapulted himself into stardom eitherway.


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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1173081)
But I'd bet my last dollar that if he had a case against Richie, he'd be suing his pants off right now (and may be doing so for all we know). And from some of the statements Richie's making, I wouldn't be too sure that THAT door doesn't swing both ways as well. As I said, JMO.

Based on previous facts and statements, I would say this is most likely NOT the case. Jon seemed pretty receptive to Richie's concerns for leaving. Unless they have lawyers battling it out underground somewhere, I don't think something like that would be kept quiet for too long.


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