Originally Posted by ben (Post 1134568)

Oh I think we may be missing much more that we even can imagine in this case. you know as time goes by and reading all those articles related to Richie's absence and his tweets I really believe that there are too many vague things here. polls or not it doesn't really matter, media do their job most of the times in a very inappropriate way. I'm just too patient to see what's next in this BJ mess.
I don't think that we'll ever learn the truth.. but as much as I'm hurt and sad by all this situation I still believe all will be good in the end in any way for both sides either alone or together! yeah ok, "maybe I'm a dreamer but I still believe.." but it's just love you know, I truly love this band, been a fan since 25 years.. BJ are the soundtrack of my life.. and this is not a good period for me, saddens me a lot! never really payed attention to those articles, deep inside me I didn't believe them.

that's my opinion. sorry for my English and if I couldn't express myself in the right way. I'm full of emotions now and I just tried to show you how I feel.
it's just that love hurts. I honestly keep the faith here, can't do and don't wanna do otherwise.

Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1134573)

Heard on Absolute Radio today, and I quote from Russ Williams, "Richie should be back for the UK gigs". This was in the same link as promoting the IOW Festival

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134569)

I do can read.

Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1134573)

Heard on Absolute Radio today, and I quote from Russ Williams, "Richie should be back for the UK gigs". This was in the same link as promoting the IOW Festival

Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1134578)

I'm right there with you! Emotional, hopeful, sappy... I'm all those things. I'm confident things will work out. As for the media, they can go screw themselves as far as I'm concerned. I only really believe it when I hear it from their mouths (as in literally "hear" it).

Originally Posted by ben (Post 1134585)

thanks for your reply again! I'm glad we agree. this is any true fan's pure love that talks.
Oh I think I've already told you I love you right? ok now it's official, I love you more! :D
getting emotional again.. omg this band has destroyed me lol

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134569)

I do can read. The capitals are to emphasise the word. However, if (or IF?) you take into account the repetition, tone, sentence structure, and WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING SAID, you can come to an altogether different conclusion.

Originally Posted by VinceBJ (Post 1134589)

Just found this on twitter, everything is just fine
http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0e8b1e49.jpg

Originally Posted by BJ?YesPlease (Post 1134577)

Haha, your nose is indeed an unpleasant place to be - as is anyone's!

I can't quite fathom the strength to re-iterate once again that I'm not taking sides and never said "Jon's a prick". I did use a lot of capital IFs, and did that for both RS and JBJ so am quite astonished at how you think I'm taking sides.

I shall just sigh, give a "meh", and trundle off to marry a complete stranger who is bound to be far hotter than I am. Epic win.

Originally Posted by BJ?YesPlease (Post 1134580)

That's all

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134592)

It's all about context fella. IF(!) you'd written "IF Jon did..., IF Richie said..., IF Jon had..." you would have emphasised the fact that we are working with unknown facts. You didn't. You wrote "IF you..., IF you..., IF you..." What you were saying to the reader is "IF you were in Richie's shoes." The 'IF's are not emphasising the unknown facts, rather they are emphasising the point that your reader is not in Richie's shoes. The shoes, whether you intended it or not, were defined by the theoretical situations you had listed, as if those situations were verbatim.

Then you said "Jon should not be able to act like an ass and screw people over and expect them to follow him. But we don't know he's done that either." You are correct. He should not be able to act like that. However, this statement reads like his acting "like an ass" is a known fact. Given the 'IF' fiasco earlier in the post, your post now reads very anti-Jon. The second sentence reads like an afterthought, a tacked on disclaimer put there as a defence mechanism- "I said I didn't know..."- rather than an integral part of your statement.

You didn't literally say "Jon is a prick" but that post gives the impression certainly gives the impression that you think very much that way.

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134592)

It's all about context fella. IF(!) you'd written "IF Jon did..., IF Richie said..., IF Jon had..." you would have emphasised the fact that we are working with unknown facts. You didn't. You wrote "IF you..., IF you..., IF you..." What you were saying to the reader is "IF you were in Richie's shoes." The 'IF's are not emphasising the unknown facts, rather they are emphasising the point that your reader is not in Richie's shoes. The shoes, whether you intended it or not, were defined by the theoretical situations you had listed, as if those situations were verbatim.

Then you said "Jon should not be able to act like an ass and screw people over and expect them to follow him. But we don't know he's done that either." You are correct. He should not be able to act like that. However, this statement reads like his acting "like an ass" is a known fact. Given the 'IF' fiasco earlier in the post, your post now reads very anti-Jon. The second sentence reads like an afterthought, a tacked on disclaimer put there as a defence mechanism- "I said I didn't know..."- rather than an integral part of your statement.

You didn't literally say "Jon is a prick" but that post certainly gives the impression that you think very much that way.

Originally Posted by gareththyer1990 (Post 1134598)

I don't know if this article has been posted but its quite shocking if the "insider" is correct in what he/she says... Prob BS but here you go:

http://www.antimusic.com/news/13/May...Bon_Jovi.shtml

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1134600)

Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1134594)

Oh c'mon now, he's probably not a writer/journalist but just writes like he would talk to someone about it, but anybody should be smart enough to read two consecutive sentences to get what he meant, instead of just go mad after reading the first sentence... I for one got what he meant on first listen (I'm 100% sure on that), and I'm not even a native speaker...

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1134600)

Originally Posted by BJ?YesPlease (Post 1134596)

I've never read so much balls in my life.

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134605)

You must not come here often then.

Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1134595)

We're all getting bitchy/sappy/wordy. We've now entered full soap-opera mode! :D This thread is officially an epic microcosm.

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134602)

In the words of Michael Winner, "calm down dear". No one got mad after the first sentence. Some people read his post, in context with the overall discussion, and with the post he quoted. Some people read it the way I did. Some people took exception to him calling us ignorant for using the info we do have to base an opinion. Then he got all arsey with me in particular, so I got all arsey back with him. Then to show there were no hard feelings I ended with a joke. He tried to joke back, but came across a little arrogant when he said he was "astonished" his post could be mis-read. So I planted my tongue in my cheek, and decided to dissect the original post. It's all good fun...

Must remember to remove tongue from cheek at some point...

Originally Posted by linnea.cfc32_jovibandana (Post 1134617)

So basically what we have today is new ways of saying IF. Great work everyone :D







:shock:

Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1134612)

See, now it happened to me and I misread your post ;-) everything's good and BTW, I'm doin' f*cking great :-)

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134620)

There's too much to say about this, so I'm not gonna say anything.

Originally Posted by linnea.cfc32_jovibandana (Post 1134617)

So basically what we have today is new ways of saying IF. Great work everyone :D







:shock:

Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1134621)

Care for some Starbucks?

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134620)

There's too much to say about this, so I'm not gonna say anything.

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134623)

Do we get to have our pictures taken on the way back to the car?

Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1134631)

although impractical and also would not help the situation if he did come back but i would love us to bring all these pshops on banners to the concerts......if only they would see the funny side to them all!!

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1134623)

Do we get to have our pictures taken on the way back to the car?

Originally Posted by VinceBJ (Post 1134611)

also found this somewhere
http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8c0ae5b2.jpg

Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1134635)

Yes! And romance-like detailed description of our clothing cured by Jovitalkers as well... How fun!