The Bieber thing is just nonsense anyway, but he just keeps talking in circles about Richie. I would have liked to hear something like "we are going to sit down and talk it out " or something. There was nothing positive said.

That presumes there is an issue between them to talk out.

Yes, it does.

Somehow, he sounded more calm about it... Yeah, he didn't say anything "positive", but he didn't say anything negative either. And I think we all kinda feared that, with the stress and everything. But fortunately, it didn't come. He simply stated he's already said everything there is to say about it (which I'm willing to take as a "you won't be seeing us bitchfight on tabloids anymore") and went back to the old formal "he hasn't been fired" line, which I honestly will take any day of the week, after the scary dreadful statements we've been reading in the press lately.

About Bieber, yeah, it was non-sense to begin with, and I knew how things went from the very start, it was quite obvious. But it's good Jon addressed it.

Right, which is good to remind everyone it's not a given here. We don't really know jack.

It's pretty clear that Jon is getting more and more pissed off about the whole thing. Richie is the one that let his own fans down so he needs to say something. To me, there is a Bon Jovi without Richie. However, when they play certain songs, of course we miss Richie.

We seem to be assuming now that the feud is the reason for his absence, but it could still be that the "personal reasons" are legit, but the absence has caused this tension- rather than the tension being the cause of the absence.

Maybe Jon was perfectly happy for Richie to miss a leg, but thinks he should be back by now, or was certainly expecting him to be, and the continued absence is causing these issues.

The problem is that Richie's tweets, pictures and the like have made the original "personal reasons" difficult to fathom and so the leap to their being an issue between Jon & Richie is a logicial one given the lack of info we have.

Exactly. Richie's tweet about nothing being resolved was taken as a reference to an issue between him and Jon, but it could be custody arrangements, a schedule with his fashion business, anything.

Please don't speak for everyone. I miss Richie on every song, not just on certain songs.

That's my take on it. Before the 2nd leg absence the band seemed to be just "Richie has to take care of stuff" now it's more "ask Richie why he hasn't taken care of stuff."

This from Facebook's "Bon Jovi - New Jersey: the Golden Decade":
Richie Sambora to be back in the band in Jule 5th says RumorFix.com regarding an 'inside info'.
Also there is Obie who said back in Sofia that Richie Sambora is likely to return in June 6th, 2013, after the band's break.

I might as well not have posted it, given it's in all likehood utter bollocks.

This. That's exactly the picture we're looking at right now.

I have to say, I believe this is a dynamic, evolving, in-progress situation. If I had to draw this, it would be a line going up, reaching a high peak and now starting to go back down...
Jon went from sounding very supportive, to the cold statements, to the mad interviews, and now he's going back to the cold statements.
Richie went from being invisible man, to the occasional "I'm alright/can't say anything" tweet, to the random somewhat irritating tweets to the mad interviews (if they're legit, and we still don't know for sure) and the fashion line at the same time, and now he's going back to the "I'm alright/can't say anything" tweets.

And STILL, it could be anything. Very frustrating. LOL

Yep, Jon's gone back to the "there's nothing else to say" format and I for one just knew it was a matter of time before he just blew and spilled all. :D I do think Bounce7800's theory that maybe they thought Richie would be gone for just a little while and were ok with that, and now it's gone on and on with no end in sight so they may be getting pissed, is an interesting one.

Post #5379. Ridiculous!
(Not your post Jessy, the situation!)

I know, right?

They could make a movie out of this or something. A freakin' 2-month (and counting) movie. One of those movies where you're left in the dark all along but somehow think you've got a grasp of what's going on, only to be dumbfounded at the very last minute with a totally different and unpredictable scenario.

This is becoming like a Doctor Who story arc. Even on some of them you're left with questions unanswered.

It would be one of those lame made-for-tv movies.

"He's in the band"

"No he's not."

"Jon's supportive. "

"No he's not. "

"I love the band. I hate my brother. "

"Someone killed my dog! "

"Your daughter should be the junkie, not mine!"

"Stop trash talking! My clothes are all that matters"

And then the big reveal.

Richie had a bad case of genital warts.

...with the cliffhanger of not knowing WHO gave him that! http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/a/w/awestruckplz.gif

Thanks for the link.. Hey, I like how he talks about spanish people ha! And I think for him Justin bieber is Richie now.. What he said about Richie.. Seriously, it's like a mistery...

Yes, Jon and the rest of the guys are doing their job, it's Richie who need to talk and come back to the Job ( cause it seems he's great and he can do his job)

It would have to be Bobby. :shock: That's would explain why Jon is so pissed.

Another new Jon interview:

http://www.mariskalrock.com/index.ph...-se-solucione/

Jon says it's not alcohol, just personal reasons that he hopes will be resolved soon. Jon also says he doesn't want to go into detail about it, because he doesn't want to add to the rumours.

At least that's how I understood it with the help of google translator...

That's exactly what I was thinking yesterday when I was trying to catch up with this thread after missing a few days.

To me it's simple, If Richie can tweet that everything is fine, dont worry etc then he should be on the f**king tour.

Also, it would appear from Twitter that Phil X is expecting a baby boy soon (given that they know the sex it must be 20+ weeks) so I'd be suprised if he was about to cover after the current set of dates

You're making assumptions about what Richie means by his tweets.

Jon seemed in a good mood for once in that video interview. Maybe he just hates the English and Americans.

Maybe but this is what they resort us too by not just coming out and telling us what's happened.

We don't need details but they are treating us like cats with a ball of string.

Heres the quote from it (google translate). Hard to understand.

What happened to Richie? Do you have problems with alcohol again?

"No. I can only comment on that is that is facing some personal problems of those who have spoken to us, and there is nothing more to say for now. We want much, I hope that everything is resolved and I hope you are well. "

I have read some statements that hints that is out of the band ...

"I will not have this conversation add more fuel to the gossip. No more rumors, there is nothing more to say, all I had to say has already been said. It's a big, you want and nothing more. "

Hahahah! I see what you did there, girl... ;)

I didn't know that. That's gotta affect something!

Wow, you can't really tell anything from that... I hope some native speaker will come and help us here!

Not sure if anyone posted this already but someone tweeted Phil saying that they were missing his sightseeing pics now he's on a break and he said that 'the sightseeing will continue.'

Something interesting in the Mariskal interview:

Interviewer: I really like the ballad "Amen", from the last album, "What about now". Is it hard to sing it live?

Jon: Absolutely no. I hope I was this smart at 1987-1988, when I made useless tone changes and that high notes. Now I compose according to my vocal range.

Interviewer: So, this way you don't get lazy at shows.

Jon: Yes, you're right. I used to compose thinking in making the best record, now I think more in the live shows. Amen suits perfectly to my vocal range.

Can you translate the Richie parts better?

I have read that the baby is due in late October

Would explain that picture of Bobby scratching behind his guitar.

Interviewer: What has happened with Richie? Is he struggling with alcohol again?

Jon: No, the only thing I can say about that, is that he's facing personal issues that he's talked with us, and there's nothing more to say by now. We love him, I'm trusting that everything will solve, and I hope he is well.

Interviewer: I've read some statements where it gets implied that he's out of the band...

Jon: I won't let this conversation to fuel even more gossips. No more rumours, there's nothing else to say, everything that had to be said has been already said. He's a big one, we love him and that's all.

BTW, I'm reading the interview was in English, so maybe something was lost on the translation to Spanish.

Though I can understand his thinking, he's been doing this long before his voice has gotten as shot as it is now. Whens the last time Jon has recorded a truly tough song in vocal terms ?

That would be the these days album. There is no song or album since that has stretched him.