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Iceman 06-17-2014 10:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1178298)
Out of interest does anyone think that New Jersey Deluxe will be on Spotify?
Yes, on the release day, just like every other album released nowadays.

Ice

Lucas_Roli 06-17-2014 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nige (Post 1177909)
1. (It’s Hard) Letting You Go
2. All I Want Is Everything
3. Bitter Wine
4. Damned
5. Diamond Ring
6. Flesh And Bone
7. Hearts Breaking Even
8. Hey God
9. I Get A Rush
10. I Just Want To Be Your Man
11. If That’s What It Takes
12. Letter To A Friend
13. Lie To Me
14. Lonely At The Top
15. My Guitar Lies Bleeding In My Arms
16. Nobody's Hero
17. Only In My Dreams
18. Open All Night
19. Prostitute
20. River Runs Dry
21. Someday Just Might Be Tonight
22. Something For The Pain
23. Something To Believe In
24. The End
25. The Fire Inside (could be KTF)
26. These Days
27. This Ain’t A Love Song
29. Wedding Day
30. When She Comes
31. Why Aren't You Dead? (could be KTF)

Not sure if Letter and Only In My Dreams count in the tally. And there are a couple I've queried too.
Here it says that River Runs Dry was written in 96 for Jon's solo album.But I tend to agree with you,the darker sound of the song makes me think that it was for TD.
Lately I've been listening alot to Wedding Day and When She comes,although they are average songs for some reason I like them alot.
Btw,does anyone know this guy Paganini Jovi,I've seen he has alot of rare stuff on his channel and he stopped uploading a few years ago.

Kukoc7 06-17-2014 06:43 PM
Now and Forever (Hear it here first!!)
 
https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-...142519582.html
Check it out!!!
Love the way it ends!!

Kukoc7 06-17-2014 06:50 PM
Better Link
 
https://screen.yahoo.com/yahoo-music...004249715.html
More direct source.

Lucas_Roli 06-17-2014 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukoc7 (Post 1178358)
Just like Full Moon High and Homebound train demos,the pitch has been corrected and the sound is clearer.It seems like those guys on youtube did a great job correcting the sound of the songs,since it sounds pretty similar to what we will get.
Thanks for the link.I think they choose Blood on Blood over this for the final album,these 2 songs have pretty much the same message.

steel_horse75 06-17-2014 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukoc7 (Post 1178358)
Promised I wouldn't listen to leaks but I had too. Love it.
June 30th can't come quick enough

Becky 06-17-2014 10:49 PM
It's funny when a "previously unreleased song" takes you way back to your youth. I remember listening to this song over and over again back in the day. I'm so glad they're releasing this deluxe edition of New Jersey!

danfan 06-18-2014 01:16 AM
Love Full Moon High. This one, not so much.

Kukoc7 06-18-2014 01:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1178403)
It's funny when a "previously unreleased song" takes you way back to your youth. I remember listening to this song over and over again back in the day. I'm so glad they're releasing this deluxe edition of New Jersey!
Right on. Yeah. Now and Forever is like the quintessential unreleased Jovi tracks. I remember hearing it first back in the mid 90's. This is such a treat to have these songs finally get an official release with the improvements in sound quality. My daughters who are 7 and 8 absolutely love Full Moon High. They keep singing it over and over, telling me that it's one of their favorite songs. It does have real sing-a-long quality to it. Great stuff!!

JON 06-18-2014 02:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukoc7 (Post 1178358)

I hope all the glitches and bumps you can hear in this advance wont be in the actual CD, becouse I didnt hear that on the old leaked demo.

Also, if you compare this with the old demo, you almost cant hear Richie's voice in the chorus, it seems like it has been replaced just by dubbing Jon's voice... It's jus me?

Rdkopper 06-18-2014 05:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JON (Post 1178420)
I hope all the glitches and bumps you can hear in this advance wont be in the actual CD, becouse I didnt hear that on the old leaked demo.

Also, if you compare this with the old demo, you almost cant hear Richie's voice in the chorus, it seems like it has been replaced just by dubbing Jon's voice... It's jus me?
I've been hearing those bumps too and was wondering the same thing.

It makes me wonder about the source Obie has? I guess this is a conversation better suited once we hear the actual album versions.

nickolai 06-18-2014 07:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JON (Post 1178420)
I hope all the glitches and bumps you can hear in this advance wont be in the actual CD, becouse I didnt hear that on the old leaked demo.

Also, if you compare this with the old demo, you almost cant hear Richie's voice in the chorus, it seems like it has been replaced just by dubbing Jon's voice... It's jus me?
I think its just been mixed a bit to get Richie's vocals a correct level to how it would be on a polished version.

I love it. Proper raw. You can feel the energy and emotion brilliantly in this. I'm as excited about this as when Crush came out.

Kukoc7 06-18-2014 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1178427)
I think its just been mixed a bit to get Richie's vocals a correct level to how it would be on a polished version.

I love it. Proper raw. You can feel the energy and emotion brilliantly in this. I'm as excited about this as when Crush came out.
I'm with you on this. The 3 songs that I've heard have a such a raw power to them. Good enough enhancement in sound to properly blast them on the stereo without taking away the spirit and emotion within the framework of songs. They have an edge to them that makes me feel like I'm smack dab in the middle of the recording sessions. I'm interested in reading eventual reviews of this by the media.

Kukoc7 06-18-2014 03:17 PM
Judgement Day
 
Another link to stream another gem. Enjoy!!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/m...ssue/10652465/

jovifan93 06-18-2014 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukoc7 (Post 1178459)
Another link to stream another gem. Enjoy!!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/m...ssue/10652465/
Honestly, I don't get it. Either they don't have the individual tracks anymore or Obie has lost his ears/mind. :confused:

While the quality is good, there are just fundamental "errors" for me. On this one for example, the vocals in the verses and the guitar (especially in the solo) are just not loud enough. On Full Moon High the bass is way too loud, in a way that it's just distracting.

So far from perfect for me, but better than the leaks of course :-) (oh, and thanks for the link ;-))

Lucas_Roli 06-18-2014 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukoc7 (Post 1178459)
Another link to stream another gem. Enjoy!!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/m...ssue/10652465/
Haha,when I started listening to this I always confused it with Growing Up The Hard Way.
I still can't believe that we are so close to getting all of them in high quality,i've been listening to the youtube versions for a year and half or so. I can't imagine how other fans who've been listening to them since the 90's feel...
I just realised that on NJ there are alot of NANANAs(BTBMB,Judgement Day,Growing up the hard way) just like there are alot of Yea Yea Yea's on TD(Hearts Breaking Even,Lie to Me,Damned,Open All night(1 milion boxset))

Dave88 06-18-2014 03:50 PM
Full Moon High (full song)

https://soundcloud.com/skerwer/bon-j...e-edition-2014

Rdkopper 06-18-2014 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1178460)
Honestly, I don't get it. Either they don't have the individual tracks anymore or Obie has lost his ears/mind. :confused:

While the quality is good, there are just fundamental "errors" for me. On this one for example, the vocals in the verses and the guitar (especially in the solo) are just not loud enough. On Full Moon High the bass is way too loud, in a way that it's just distracting.

So far from perfect for me, but better than the leaks of course :-) (oh, and thanks for the link ;-))
They might not have individual tracks.

And after hearing some of the bumps yesterday, I'm starting to wonder about the source Obie is using. They might have used the same quality versions we all had verses a master track.

steel_horse75 06-18-2014 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1178464)
love it!!!!

Rdkopper 06-18-2014 06:21 PM
This is why I hate this internet era.

Although I have every intention of buying this release, I still ripped all three songs and have been listening to them non-stop...

I'm not strong enough not to do this so now when I do get the album, there will probably be only 1 song left to look forward to.

steel_horse75 06-18-2014 06:43 PM
I'm listening once and that's it

Dave 1986 06-18-2014 07:42 PM
I bought the "Homebound Train" demo off iTunes just out or curiosity (mainly sound quality) and that's it. Listened to the snippet of "Full Moon High" a few times. Other than that I'm holding off until I get my Super Deluxe Edition. I have all the original leaked demos which I've hardly listened to over the years so hopefully I'll still get that album experience.

jovifan93 06-18-2014 09:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1178471)
They might not have individual tracks.

And after hearing some of the bumps yesterday, I'm starting to wonder about the source Obie is using. They might have used the same quality versions we all had verses a master track.
You mean from the original master/source of the leaks? Because there is no way that you could clean the leaked versions up to what is on here, there is just too much sound loss for sublte parts like keyboards, etc. to be possible. Plus it has additional intros and outros.

After thinking about it again, for them to only have the master DAT tape or what was being used at the time makes the most sense to me. They just recorded it (after all they're demos) back in the day on 8 or whatever tracks, made a rough mix and put it on tape and later into the vault. Had they kept the individual tracks (which makes not too much sense for demos), I'm sure the result would sound different...

Rdkopper 06-18-2014 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1178492)
You mean from the original master/source of the leaks? Because there is no way that you could clean the leaked versions up to what is on here, there is just too much sound loss for sublte parts like keyboards, etc. to be possible. Plus it has additional intros and outros.

After thinking about it again, for them to only have the master DAT tape or what was being used at the time makes the most sense to me. They just recorded it (after all they're demos) back in the day on 8 or whatever tracks, made a rough mix and put it on tape and later into the vault. Had they kept the individual tracks (which makes not too much sense for demos), I'm sure the result would sound different...
Good Explanation! An 8 track recorder makes sense for a taped demo done in 1988.

On a side note:
I know with Elvis material, FTD records has been know to clean-up bootleg recordings. Obviously with Elvis, what they got is all they'll get.

Even if they didn't have Jon on any recording singing We All Sleep Alone and Cad Man, they could always enhance the bootleg versions. Look what BONJOVI90 did. Could you imagine what they could do?

Captain_jovi 06-18-2014 11:29 PM
Richie's voice sounds WAY higher in the mix of Judgement Day now. So many small things I didn't notice on the demo everyone has. It took a bit but I'm officially excited for this release.

nickolai 06-19-2014 08:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1178505)
Richie's voice sounds WAY higher in the mix of Judgement Day now. So many small things I didn't notice on the demo everyone has. It took a bit but I'm officially excited for this release.
Yeah me too. Its like a new album.

Queue the "best album since These Days" comments coming out!

jovifan93 06-19-2014 08:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1178502)
Good Explanation! An 8 track recorder makes sense for a taped demo done in 1988.

On a side note:
I know with Elvis material, FTD records has been know to clean-up bootleg recordings. Obviously with Elvis, what they got is all they'll get.

Even if they didn't have Jon on any recording singing We All Sleep Alone and Cad Man, they could always enhance the bootleg versions. Look what BONJOVI90 did. Could you imagine what they could do?
Yes, of course. I just meant that when there are subtle things that aren't hearable on the bootlegs due to noise/compression, there's no way to bring 'em back. You can clean out the noise, change the pitch, do some sideprocessing stuff, change the tempo, etc. but it's not magic ;-)

steel_horse75 06-19-2014 09:31 AM
New Jersey was the bands best album so its no surprise that the unreleased tracks are sounding great

Avantasian 06-19-2014 11:53 AM
"The second disc holds the 13 Sons of Beaches demos from the New Jersey sessions, remixed for the reissue."

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/m...ssue/10652465/

"Remixed" means they had the original single tracks, right?

jovifan93 06-19-2014 12:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avantasian (Post 1178529)
"The second disc holds the 13 Sons of Beaches demos from the New Jersey sessions, remixed for the reissue."

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/m...ssue/10652465/

"Remixed" means they had the original single tracks, right?
Yeah, remixing would imply single tracks. Question is whether that information is accurate or just some journalist stating that without knowing what it actually is/what actually happened...

Ghostorm 06-19-2014 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1178520)
Yeah me too. Its like a new album.

Queue the "best album since These Days" comments coming out!
I hope my comment will be the "best album since New Jersey" :D

Lucas_Roli 06-19-2014 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1178464)
Damn this song is catchy as f*ck. I kept playing the riff in my head all day long.

I also got a question.
When was this version of Let's Make It Baby recorded?

In 88?or was it in the 90s?

jovifan93 06-19-2014 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucas_Roli (Post 1178540)
Damn this song is catchy as f*ck. I kept playing the riff in my head all day long.

I also got a question.
When was this version of Let's Make It Baby recorded?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apmyhrnWLBE

In 88?or was it in the 90s?
If I'm not mistaken, this is the second demo/more produced version, which will be included in the Deluxe Edition. I reckon both have been recorded in 1988, maybe it was touched up later for release, but that I don't know...

belgium_BON_JOVI_fan 06-19-2014 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1178551)
If I'm not mistaken, this is the second demo/more produced version, which will be included in the Deluxe Edition. I reckon both have been recorded in 1988, maybe it was touched up later for release, but that I don't know...
that version was included in the tour edition of these days...

KTF,

Nick

jovifan93 06-20-2014 09:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by belgium_BON_JOVI_fan (Post 1178567)
that version was included in the tour edition of these days...

KTF,

Nick
Right, thanks, I knew I had it on CD somewhere :)

SuperBrad 06-20-2014 11:38 PM
Im pretty sure we get Diamond Ring tomorrow .... Cant wait !!!!

steel_horse75 06-21-2014 12:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBrad (Post 1178617)
Im pretty sure we get Diamond Ring tomorrow .... Cant wait !!!!
Now that's one song I can't stand

bonjovi90 06-21-2014 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1178618)
Now that's one song I can't stand
In the earlier version they sang it in a slightly different darker (lower?) way, which I quite liked:
I hope the demo captured this.

Though I basically adore the song for the line "you know I bleed every night you sleep 'cause I don't know if I'm in your dreams" which I think is, while extraordinary cheesy, sung perfectly by Jon. But I'm almost certain that this part of the lyric was added in the 90's.

Rdkopper 06-21-2014 12:28 AM
The one I'm really looking forward to is House Of Fire...

Captain_jovi 06-21-2014 03:14 AM
Its Backdoor to Heaven for me.


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