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Chris_Newton 04-12-2013 06:44 PM

I really don't get all the negativity towards Jon. Richie is his own man, if he didn't want to go on the tour then im sure he was more than capable of saying so. Jon can not force him to go!

So Richie bails and its all Jons fault? Where as the reality is that they dont cancel any shows, they still play 26+ plus a night, and send a lot of people home very happy...thats what a band is all about !

People bitch about Jon this, set list that and everyone is entitled to their say and thats what this forum is for but you have to remember that 99.9% of the fans wont come on here, wont care what the set lists are as long as they are sent home smiling.

Captain_jovi 04-12-2013 06:52 PM

Yea, I'm seeing a lot of threads attacking Jon for what Richie did. Everyone's assuming Jon is behind this without a lick of evidence.

Bill23 04-12-2013 09:01 PM

[QUOTE=Mysterytrain;1121927]I'm not sure if I should even consider a rumor like this one, but it's been posted on the Bon Jovi "Topix" thread and is food for thought, I think, since none of us knows anything about the nature of Richie's departure yet. This person (registered as "Soupy" from Colorado) wrote the following (the other comments are subsequent replies to disbelieving fans):

The contracts for the second leg of the tour were placed in a room at the Calgary arena....one got A LOT more than the other three splitting up the rest. One quit immediately.....the other two need the money and will sign anything but are furious. You've got THREE guys onstage now getting scale with nothing else. I hear Tico is getting ready to leave after the last U.S. date.

Richie went nuts with the second leg contracts. He's healthy. Celebritynetworth is a joke. Look up Chuck Zito and laugh. Jon is worth well over 200, Richie is about 25 million (he handled money like booze). Dave at 85 is a stone joke. He had to get BIG backing for his Broadway thing. The net is poor as with all Broadway financed productions with private citizens until years later. Frankie Valli was put in a screw contract with Jersey Boys cause he had no idea it would be massive. Songwriting is the key and Dave's share is peanuts. Tico at 40 is laughable. The guy hawks his artwork at small galleries and divorces crucified him. AJS is like Ace Frehley, he might be at 2 million. It'll break down the road, Jon put up the take and leave it percentages and pointed to the door. He could tour solo and get 12,000 per night with the scale musicians onstage now plus a new drummer & keyboard player. No Richie: No Bon Jovi. I like how "X" is put in the shadows.

Booked leg but not signed as early as October of 2012. No phone call, it was in person. It is 100% about the percentages on the second leg, not booze again, Mrs. Bon Jovi fed up with the 1987 Richie, dumped new girlfriend or any other personal garbage. Jon runs the show, it is his highway, you take Jon and his laws or walk.

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I think this guy (whoever posted this theory/rumor) has the wrong band. It sounds like the way Guns n Roses blew up (kind of). No way after 25+ years Jon would pull this d-bag move.

Crushgen24/88 04-12-2013 09:07 PM

No way a band this big with a tour that's going to make huge money signs leg by leg contracts.

bjcrazycpa 04-12-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88 (Post 1121976)
No way a band this big with a tour that's going to make huge money signs leg by leg contracts.

Precisely Brian...it just doesn't happen. Plus, AEG committed to multiple tour years way back when. Signing contracts leg by leg is small time.

Crushgen24/88 04-12-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Neurotica80 (Post 1121867)
Well i'm a big Richie fan, his show last year ranks amongst my best ever but I have lost a lot of respect for him over this and his silence. I initially had sympathy for him but If every band member took 3 weeks to deal with a "simple personal issue" the fans would get screwed. If there are internal problems then as much as "its not what BJ do" I think something needs to be said. This coupled with letting the US fans down last year, well lets just say I wouldnt be making any big plans to see any of his own shows in future. His rep is taking a big hit.

^This.^
Maybe I'm still bitter about the last minute cancelled solo show last year, but it's bothering me how much slack Richie is getting. NOW IF it's addiction related, or family related, I have no issue with him leaving the tour. I just think a better statement could be made. It doesn't have to be insanely specific, but mod than we have now. That said, if it is about money or creative differences, I have no respect for that. It's one thing to leave for those reasons before or after the tour, but to do it mid-tour is bull.

Supersonic 04-12-2013 09:17 PM

Aloha !

Richie hadn't even made it to Calgary, unlike what people were reporting. It's kind of hard to read a contract presented to in a hotel room over there when you're still in L.A.

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1121953)
Yea, I'm seeing a lot of threads attacking Jon for what Richie did. Everyone's assuming Jon is behind this without a lick of evidence.

You should know by now that Jon is the root of all evil when it concerns this band. Starving kids in Africa? Jon. Aids? Jon. No guitar solo's? Jon. It's all the same. Oh, nuclear threats in Korea as well. All Jon, despite what Matt wants you to believe.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Lisa71 04-12-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88 (Post 1121979)
^This.^
Maybe I'm still bitter about the last minute cancelled solo show last year, but it's bothering me how much slack Richie is getting. NOW IF it's addiction related, or family related, I have no issue with him leaving the tour. I just think a better statement could be made. It doesn't have to be insanely specific, but mod than we have now. That said, if it is about money or creative differences, I have no respect for that. It's one thing to leave for those reasons before or after the tour, but to do it mid-tour is bull.

Heather and Ava were the Scream 5 premiere on the 11th April. Both looking healthy and happy.

Sambo-Chris 04-12-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa71 (Post 1121982)
Heather and Ava were the Scream 5 premiere on the 11th April. Both looking healthy and happy.

And Ava was at a Rihanna concert the other day and only tweets Teeny stuff still.

Kathleen 04-12-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88 (Post 1121979)
Maybe I'm still bitter about the last minute cancelled solo show last year, but it's bothering me how much slack Richie is getting. NOW IF it's addiction related, or family related, I have no issue with him leaving the tour. I just think a better statement could be made. It doesn't have to be insanely specific, but mod than we have now. That said, if it is about money or creative differences, I have no respect for that. It's one thing to leave for those reasons before or after the tour, but to do it mid-tour is bull.

Exactly Brian, I know I am still bitter about those cancelled shows and so are several people that I know. Not to mention that this is the second time that the US audience has had to put up with him being gone with practically no notice. He doesn't pull that shit for the European part of the tour. Or at least he hasn't yet.


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