And just a few hours after that tweet, Richie's interview for the MailOnline came out. That interview is said to be a reaction to Jon's interview. If that's the case, then it wouldn't make much sense for the tweet to be linked to it too, because it's quite the opposite approach. So, unless Richie's interview either actually took place before Jon's or simply didn't take place at all, that tweet is probably not related to Jon's interview.

I can't recall, I would love to know that as well from someone who remembers exactly what happened.


After all the apparent bitchfighting, I'm thinking no news is good news, although I have to admit the quiet waiting is killing me.

I'm sure Nikki sent the tweet first with words to the effect of getting clothes ready for the tour which got the buzz going on here then a couple of days later TMZ caught Richie flying into NY and the return announcement came from the horses mouth. If I'm not mistaken there may have been some official announcement on the main website as I can recall a photo of them doing sound check on the catwalk with a tag line to the effect of look who's back.

For some reason that truly made me laugh out loud. I couldn't help but think he'll throw in something about 52 countries too.

I'm holding onto hope that the week-long Tweet silence means they are hashing things out behind the scenes, working out differences, reaching a truce, etc.

Thanks for the recap!

I hope that is what it means but I would not count on it. Jon has been with family the whole break, his son's graduation was on Friday, as was his daughter's birthday
I think the lack of tweets were just from the fact that his last tweet got a huge bad reaction and lots of replies such as if you have nothing to say, don't tweet until you do.

They could be talking on the phone but Jon has been in Jersey.

And let's not lose sight of the fact that there might not be a need for a "truce" at all. A lot of speculation doesn't make the rumors true.

I'm sorry, but its really just obvious at this point.

It does look that way, but among the very few things that directly came from Bon Jovi themselves, there's also the fact that "there was no row". Jon said it multiple times. You might argue he's not necessarily telling the truth and I might ask you what for. They're saying next to nothing anyway, it would have taken no effort to omit that as well. It seems obvious, sure, but to me it's not. I'm still as in the dark as I was on day one.

But it's not obvious. Jon has said more than once that there was no fight. The only "quotes" we have from Richie indicating a fight within the band are from tabloid sources or other sources quoting the tabloid. The only thing Richie has legitimately said about the band is that he loves them. All this fight between Jon and Richie stuff is speculation based on nothing credible and worst case scenario thinking.

I know right ? :)

now that I think about it... perhaps Jon was tired Richie kept stealing the show. has anyone ever suggested this ? i know it may sound silly but think about it - Richie even said Jon wanted to see if he could play the stadiums ' by himself' or 'on his own', whatever his words were...

In what way was Richie stealing the show? For us, yah it was a highlight but the general public doesn't care as much about his solo stuff or him singing a song. If anything it's the opposite, it was a mass beer/pee break.

I think "stealing the show" in this case might have been referring to Richie's playing/singing overall being especially good on the first leg of this tour, compared to recent years.

Becky's right. There is nothing at any point from any of the band to indicate a fight has ever happened.

I think though it'll be telling if Richie shows up on this next leg - if he doesn't then I'll start to suspect something deeper has gone on.

Also, Richie left the tour. He wasn't thrown off the tour. Jon got a surprise phone call a few hours before a show.

yeah. nevermind.

Which Jon can only be grateful for and happy about...
"Hey, Richie, you're playing and singing way too well lately for my taste, you'd better start sucking at your job soon or I'll kick you out". Nope, don't really see that happening.

By "next leg" do you mean the rest of the European shows or the one in the US?

The US ones.

If whatever's personal hasn't been sorted out by then it must be frickin' serious.

I agree. Fingers crossed we'll never see that day.

Damn! Richie the man is really going all out with his fashion line! At least you can't say he's not dedicated to this:

http://galleryoftheabsurd.typepad.co...mborabra_2.jpg

apologies if it's been posted before, keeping up with this thread is hard :p

Maybe because "what happens in Jovi stays in Jovi"?:confused:

This puzzles me. If Jon was so surprised by the phone call that came in before the Calgary show why did Paul not have to "finish the sentence"?

“At 3:30pm on show day the phone rang and it was Paul the manager and he said guess what, and he didn’t even have to finish the sentence. I said, you’re kidding..."

It sounds to me as if Jon kind of expected the call... and that makes me think that there must have been some discussion prior to that call about the possibility that Richie wouldn't be there. I know Jon said in other interviews "we've been through this before... in 2011" but just because that happened once wouldn't make him automatically assume that it was happening again, would it? Especially since he apparently knew that rehab wasn't the issue this time, like it was in 2011.

Does anyone know exactly (or close) how many Bon Jovi shows Richie has missed over the years (othan the 13 while in he was in rehab during 2011)? Have there been enough that, just from Paul's "guess what", Jon could easily jump to the conclusion that Richie wasn't going to be there?

He missed one in Puert Rico but was on board again for the O2 London opening. Don't remember the year, was it 2009? Don't know of any show he missed before that due to rehab or something.

The gig in Puerto Rico was in 2007.

the puerto rico show was the first official gig he ever missed. it was an impressive feature till last tour when richie sadly became a liability...i hope he returns...
i think its obvious that there is sth wrong with richie and jon, no matter what jon says...the comment about the edge was way out of line, and richies tweet after that where he has so many things to say etc imo showed his frustration.
i also pointed out the fact that jon mentioned his manager didnt even had to finish the sentence...it obviously was sth that had been discussed between them

Exactly. Also, Richie never denied having a falling out with Jon. Richie is very aware of that rumour because people tweet him about it all the time. Not denying it, is a way of confirming it.
Jon also said in an interview that Richie had to make a choice between going forward or quitting the band because he hates his brother. Why would Jon say that if he didn't give Richie a reason to hate him? When Jon said Paul didn't have to finish the sentence, it means a part of Jon was already expecting a call like that to come. He knew someting big had happened previously and he just didn't think Richie would be angry enough to leave, which is why Jon answered Paul by saying: "You're kidding?"
Add to that the fact that since Richie left, Jon said he has only spoken to Richie once. What kind of friend doesn't speak to a friend who is dealing with an issue important enough to take him away from the tour for so long? It also explains why everyone involved is being so secretive about it. It's embarassing for a band that claims to be a "brotherhood". Then the "interview" Richie supposedly gave to the Daily Mail: Again, no denials from Richie. When Richie left the last tour for rehab, Jon made a point of mentioning Richie at every show he missed, even dedicating songs to him. This time Jon doesn't mention Richie at all, he just pretends everything is normal on stage. Clearly he is not very supportive of Richie this time. Again, what kind of friend doesn't show support to a friend dealing with issues?
Yes, I think it's obvious that they had a fight, no matter how often Jon (and Matt) tries to deny it.

I think it's the New Jersey era all over again, only this time social media and the tabloid culture are complicating things even further. They're tired and burnt out and taking it out on each other. Album, tour, album, tour etc. It was only a matter of time before someone was going to crack. Too bad nobody in a place of authority had the experience and courage after the last tour to say "Let's take a looooong break." Oh, wait...

Someone with the knowledge of human body language/a human trained to be a lie detector should analyze Jon's body language. They're all over youtube anyway so why not? ;)

That be interesting. :D

Didn't he miss a German show back in the -80-ies because he cut his hand or something?

I don't know. Wasn't a fan in the 80s. David missed something because he cut his finger with a chain saw or something but I don't know if it was a show or just the recordings and video of Real Life. And Tico missed one TV appearance once where Obie was on Drums.

I think they cancelled a perth show in 95 cause tico had a bad wrist or something ? Is that what happened ?

Are you referring to this? Some people think it's Obie for some reason but It's not. Tico was opening an art gallery or something, the replacement was a session player (not a very good one either)

The only time I can recall Obie playing drums was when Tico sang Crazy at one of the Christmas shows in New Jersey in the 90s -

That is the most enlightening round-up yet.
Excellent.

Agree. Makes sense.... sadly :(

Obie (badly) mimed Drums when Jon played Janie on Wetten Dass in 97.

Thanks, guys! I've been trying to find out because I could only remember The Circle (rehab) and I had heard vaguely about the PR show that followed the Unplugged taping. But the comments I've read seem to portray Richie as unreliable; almost as if this is something that he's done so often that you can now expect him to not show up for any given show.

So, as far as Bon Jovi is concerned, prior to this tour there have actually only been two separate times that Richie didn't "show up for work". In thirty years. Is that correct?

I'm just trying to understand why some of the people here, who sound so angry or snarky, seem to think it's fair to judge Richie's actions (and his silence) so harshly without knowing what his reasons are. The fact that he has chosen to keep it private doesn't mean that he doesn't have good reasons for him to be in LA while the others are out on tour. And what really seems to make them most angry is that his life is going on while he's not on the road. Can you (or anyone) explain why should we reason that if he's not on tour every aspect of his life should suck out loud?

Seriously, why are people convinced that Richie is "a dick", "an ungrateful disrespectful bastard", "a prick", "an unreliable slacker", "an irresponsible flake", or a [insert derogatory term of choice here] who is no longer worthy of their respect, when all that we really know for a fact is that he didn't show up in Calgary and that he has been missing shows since that time?

Ah okay, I mixed it up then.

Because people pay a shitload of money to see the whole band and unless his reasons are personal or family illness its really not professional to bail after tickets have been sold. And hes doing ****in great and he has no problems so he should be on tour. Simple as that. Not worthy of respect because he showed no respect for the fans.