I typed in another celebrity's name and it wouldn't go to that page, either, so I don't think this is exclusive to Richie's account.

It must have been a temporary problem, Richie's page seems to work just fine to me now.

Twitter wasn't working. Even if you could go to the home page, the updates were over 30 minutes. If you go back now, it seems to be working again.

This exactly. I don't understand how it can be seen differently. If it was Jon that walked out he would be the unprofessional one. I am not saying it about Richie because I'm a Jon fan, it just is what it is.

I'm not saying that ultimately Richie isn't to blame. I'm saying we dont know.
Until we can say something without the word "if" then there's no way we can add a judgement.

Sorry to anyone who's read something where I've put a theoretical scenario involving Jon being to blame. I'm playing devil's advocate - it could be anyone's fault (literally, at this stage, anyone. I won't be shocked if it turns out to be George W Bush's fault at this stage). Jon is just the go-to person given it seems its something between the two of them.

When people say that a legitimate reason would be "health issues", I wonder if that includes mental health as well as physical health. Since Richie /appears/ physically healthy, I just wonder if there could be something else going on mentally that isn't so obvious to us.

Just a thought.

NOBODY BUY ANYTHING EVER IN CASE SOMETHING MAYBE GOES WRONG!!!

I think that's the gist of your point. If only everyone had the same foresight and pragmatic view on life you do.

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Totally agree here. However, its also what he has (and hasn't) done since he left the tour that is unprofessional. His tweets have been nothing short of disrespectful at times. If he really is "f****** great", then do the professional thing and finish the tour.

I must have missed the bit where the band were offering refunds on hotels, flights, trains...

And the part where they offered to get in touch with people's bosses to reschedule holiday time and days off?

You're absolutely right, with the band offering to do all that, nobody has any reason to moan...


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People really need to stop dismissing the financial and 'customer' aspects of this mess. When the whole picture is considered, refunds aren't all that suitable for some. While I personally have come mostly to terms with the situation, and will make the most of what's available, I will have huge amounts of sympathy for those who still feel aggrieved at paying for something they didn't get. They've put their money where their mouth is, as they saying goes, so they are perfectly entitled to complain if they feel they've been short changed.

heres my opinion (for what its worth) as we near the date for the Gig we are attending.....BON JOVI without Richie is like a three wheeler car (remember them) yes they function as a car but without that fourth wheel at the front its never going to perform like a proper car......When this shit kicked off i truly thought it was health/addiction problems for Richie, but as the pictures/tweets came out of Richie looking quite well it became obvious to me that indeed He and Jon were at loggerheads......looking back we all should have seen it coming, right back before The Circle when all this CEO crap surfaced for real, the lack of some decent guitar work.....even back to when the fan club became the backstage with JON Bon Jovi club......you only have to watch live appearances its clear that the dynamic duo arnt a duo anymore (hurricane sandy special was a good example Richie hardly glances at Jon).....no matter how hard Jon tries to act it out........at this moment in time I think THEY BOTH need to take the rap for this shambles, Richie for saying hes busy fuc#ing dressmaking and worse than that agreeing to tour in the first place, and Jon for overinflating his own ego so much its casued this!!!!
So as we approach "E" day (Ethiad) im expecting to see JBJ giving it his all (and I respect him for that), but without Richie its not going to be the best Gig I have seen....I may be wrong but as I have said, when the final few notes of Wanted are played and Jon is out there on his own with his rasied guitar pointing skyward, he is going to look a lonely figure....I find it (not sure of a word that describes it)"motivating when they BOTH do this little showpeice, its the same with Blood on Blood in the older days with them both at the one mike, perhaps even "Water" in the last of the Sambora gigs where the Jon & Richie thing takes over............but alas its not going to happen this time around and its THAT!!! that really pi#ses me off.....dont get me wrong I love and admire them both but FFS after what is now 28 years of being a loyal fan, being denied a true BON JOVI experience, the very experience that MADE them what they are (were) today............so right now JBJ needs to deflate that CEO attitude, let Richie get a good share of the input towards the setlist (his own songs) and some real rocking guitarwork......whilst Richie should drop his bloody sewing machine and tape measure and get back on the road where he belongs!!!!

I've posted this before but if Richie came back, when he and Jon stood together with guitars raised, would it ring true to you? Or would it seem like something they are now doing because fans expect it and they want to make it seem everything's ok again? I'd lean towards the latter, that it's all for show. But I know when/if it happens the first time, fans will tell themselves it's real and scream their tonsils out. Yes, I'm feeling very cynical today. :D

I have a feeling they won't be able to 'fake it'--at least not for very long. After all, if they had been able to truly fake it earlier, and were having a disagreement about something, Richie would still be on the tour.

That's another point that I've been trying to make a few times... If all this was indeed because of a fight (and we still don't know, no matter how people keep saying we do or it's obvious or the fairy told them), if they were good at/okay with faking it, Richie would have never left the tour and we wouldn't even be here on this endless thread to begin with.

Yes, and further, like the Forbes article stated, publicly, at least, in past years, Jon and Richie have made very supportive statements about one another and their relationship. There is probably some scripted banter onstage with them, but I've also seen a lot of what appear to be off-the-cuff moments that, to me, at least, suggest they are truly close, when it comes right down to it. The dynamics of their relationship have probably changed over the years, since they aren't living in each other's pockets anymore, but 30 years is a long time, and I'm sure there is some sort of bond there.

I keep on thinking of it almost like a marriage, and I know the band has described it like that, too, in various interviews. According to a RumorFx article published recently (and I don't know if Richie actually said this, though it kind of sounds like him imo)-

'“It’s like a marriage,” Richie is telling friends, “there are problems,” and he calls this argument “a hiccup in a 30-year-marriage.”

This thing makes me think of a longtime married couple who separate for awhile to try to sort out their issues.

So does that make us like the children that are caught in the middle waiting to see if mom and dad divorce? Or in this case our two dads?

Lol!! And yes, I think that's an apt way of describing it. The fans are 'caught in the middle' and feel powerless, hence the frustration and 500 + pages on this thread. Some of us have gotten past the point of caring, others of us want to see them back together, but it seems like there is high emotion in all the points of view on this.

I would like to propose that, as of June 6, this thread be deleted and we pretend it never existed.

Imagine the family lives we could return to ... the targets we'd hit at work ... the fabulous music we'd write ... the love we'd make...

Good post ! I 2nd that . But maybe gradually delete it ..... I couldnt go cold turkey ..... I go to this thread before my texts tweets and emails every morning . Its gonna be tough !

You're right. Maybe the band should set up The Bon Jovi Centre for Jovitalk Addicts to help with our reintegration back into the real world!

4th June, still no news........

Given the fact that its a minimum of 14 hours flight from LA to Copenhagen with a minimum of 1 connection at various airports including London Heathrow if we are going to hear something then I'm expecting to at some point today. By hearing something I mean paparazzi shots - I.e TMZ. I don't think there will be an official announcement as such. Maybe a tweet seeing as RS is on Twitter now and wasn't last time.

Yeah and delete your account while you're at it. Clean sweep style.

Jon's looking very old, tired and thin. This was taken on Sunday. The stress must be catching up with him.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...levant_count=1

He also appears to have hit the bottle of dye

The comments below the pic (I don't facebook so not sure if they are called comments or likes or whatever) are hilarious. You would get eaten alive for saying "Jon looks very old, tired and thin" LOL.

Jon was already looking his age before Richie left. Burn out.

Its the pressures of being a CEO!

I smiled at the fact he has what we in the South call a farmer's tan (and occasionally a redneck tan) on his arms.

It's called a gadgie's tan in certain parts of Scotland. Gadgie is not a compliment!!!

What if this message would have popped up on April 3rd?

Due to personal issues, Tico Torres will not be performing on this upcoming leg.

Would there have been conspiracy theories floating on the internet and tabloids? Would there have been a thread (with almost 600 pages) on this board filled with possible explanations what those personal issues might be? Would fans be as passionate about it as they are now? Would the band have been able to continue the tour? If yes, would fans demand refunds?

Is Bon Jovi to the majority of fans JBJ & Richie Sambora and then the other two guys?

I personally don´t think if Tico or David would not have been able to continue the tour it would have stirred up things like it has now. Opinions?

No it wouldn't have created this fuss, simply because Tico is not as big a part of Bon Jovi as Richie is. Whilst he's a fantastic musician and he would be dearly missed if he weren't playing for whatever reason, the simple fact is that guitar is a much more creative and expressive instrument than the drums. Add into the mix the fact that Richie sings a lot on stage and his voice is well recognised and it shows why he's missed so much. Obviously the fact that Richie is much more of a celebrity than Tico adds to the gossip side of things, but from a purely musical standpoint, it makes sense that Richie missing would provoke a stronger reaction than if it were Tico.

Of course there would not have been these theories but it's a fact that Richie and Tico don't have the same role in the band. Tico is not only on stage in the background. I would have missed Tico but Jon and Richie are the faces of the band. Richie co-wrote the songs and delievers the background vocals which I really missed in Munich. The guitar solos aren't the same (The drum sound wouldn't also be the same). Phil X does a good Job but it's Richie who puts the emotions into the songs. The interaction between Jon and Richie is responsible for the magic of the shows. It's not the case that I don't appreciate Tico but Richie and Tico are different to compare.

Personally... No, but you do when you casually throw around words like "EWW" and "horrible". Learn how to express yourself like mature adults do and then come back. I hate people who forget their brain in the bowl in the morning.

The MailOnline informs us about Jon's latest spotting, yesterday, with Stephanie.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-Can-tour.html

The description of clothing is much less fan-fiction-like than it was for Richie and his own daughter, but they don't miss the chance to talk about Stephanie's drug issue yet another time. Much to my disbelief, though, they don't mention Richie at all.

Yes and the wait is killing me.. But right now I think Richie won't come back 6th June :(

Last time we also didn't get any info beside a tweet from Abby. But nothing official.

Apart from Richie saying to TMZ he was off to Europe. Didn't we also get a pic from sound check on the official website?

She's wearing a black Paisley print dress.

That's GOT to be a hint to Richie coming back, SHOOORELY?!?!

;)

(I assume people remember his paisley stint....the black paisley signature guitar etc)

Does Abby just do Richie's clothes or the whole band? She's just checked in at Nashville Internstional Airport. Probably means nothing.

There is a pic of Phil X and Abby on his Facebook page so apparently she's not just Richie's dresser.