Like I said, if you think I'm making it up, just google it.

Hey, there's plenty of American scumbags too. No country is immune to it. This just happens to be the impression that South America leaves on me. If you think being loud, disruptive and not following the same rules that apply to everyone else is acceptable, then I'm sure you don't have a problem with this.

Aloha !

America giving birth to such bands is no excuse. America always needs "the next big thing". Would it not have been grunge it'd have been something else. Every hype over there only lasts so long. America is very varied when it comes to music acts because there's a market for everything there due to its population being so varied, but there's always something that has to be the big thing everyone accepts. There can never be 2 big things at the same time, hence when something new comes along, something old has to go.

Where Bon Jovi used to play the A locations (as in the middle of the city) in the eighties, they moved to the B locations. You have to realize that the places where you've seen them have always drawn Bon Jovi's biggest crowds. Bon Jovi used to be able to sell out any arena anywhere in the U.S.A. and now had to resort to B-locations in A- places, meaning the smaller places in the big cities, as opposed to the big places in smaller cities. It'd take them 12 years before they'd be able to do something even remotely the same.

I was expecting a bunch of South Americans being involved in some fight before I clicked that link but all they're doing is chanting a song of some sorts? No offense, but I honestly don't see what the big deal is, they're just having fun? What's rude about this?

I agree the cutting in line thing isn't the right thing to do in a theme park but if it's such a trend it means Americans are really letting it happen. All you have to do is say no, really, and I'm talking from my lovely Disneyland Paris experiences here. :)

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I'm aware of that, I'm not in any way endorsing the bad behavior that a good part of brazilians do, but you're not being fair. Those rude people leave in Florida money, tons of money that employs a lot of americans that depends on tourism.

But I kinda understand you. You have no idea the image that north americans have here, that americans are rude, xenophobists, and a lot of other stuff. I lived in LA for 4 months, just found kind people and people interested in my country (although not really aware that we speak portuguese, probably like you), and sure, I will return any time, in fact I'm going to Fort Lauderdale next month, off course expecting to not dissapoint you.

Do you realize that exactly these three words some up the experience many Europeans have with American tourists?

Also:
http://blog.hostelbookers.com/travel...rican-tourist/

I have absolutely no doubt. There are rude people in every country I would assume. They're the ones that stick out and give the bad reputation their country has. It's sad, but that's how a stereotype begins.

First of all I wanted to say one thing: don't ever let this thread die.

Now, back on topic. Danfan, we act like animals in our country, I don't do it myself but most of the people here does; but talking about the Disney groups is unfair, the Disney travel is a gift that fathers give to her daughters for their 15th birthday (something like sweet 16 here) and some of them haven't even turned 15 by the day they travel! You can't really expect a group of 50+ 14/15 year old girls to behave quietly like adults, it's just not gonna happen.

Most of argentines behave better outside their country than in theirs, I don't know why, we're just that stupid.

Eh, they can keep it in their home country. I don't live in Florida. I could care less about what money goes in and out. I leave money there too, but I don't think that entitles me to behave in a way that is disruptive to other people.

I understand this. Kids will be kids anywhere. In America, we have annoying cheerleader groups that travel to Disney and they're almost as bad. I think the Brazilians get the bad rap because there's just so many of them. One thing they do that drives people crazy, and they are told not to but simply don't listen - Take flash pictures on dark rides or of parades and fireworks at night, blinding anyone in the vicinity.

yet it's okay to do it on message boards?

Now you're just going to stoke even more anti-American sentiment.

Aloha !

Well from my experiences their quite illeteral.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

they're :p

Yeah but the big picture you don't understand it's that there'll always be bad people in any country. For example there's a lot of europeans and americans every month putted in jail for sex tourism in Rio. Do we call you a sex tourist?

I really think you should.

I'm almost entirely certain that was deliberate haha.

i thought about it for a moment but then decided against it. sebas is not god :lol:

Aloha !

WHY DON'T YOU PULL THE TRIGGER AND FIND OUT?

Yes it was deliberate. As was mistyping illiteral, which you missed.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

pull the trigger on you? then this message board would be dead :lol:

Ah c'mon, don't give him more credit than even he himself would ;)

Aloha !

She's not telling me something new here. I don't need someone to give me credit or to stroke my ego. I'm way too cool for that.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Hehe, I know, that's why I said that ;). No seriously, though often wrong you're at least one of the more interesting reads on this board, keep it up..

so.....erm.....whats happened to Richie? lol

I'm going to agree with you on this one. The story is spreading now, all the articles are just quoting the TMZ report but more and more articles are now coming out. The band need to address this and not by Matt. No one is thinking, lets go and check what Jon's brother is saying about this and besides the guy has no PR skills what so ever, he makes it worse somehow. An official statement on the website is what's needed.

Now those first few shows when Richie is back, everyone will be scrutinizing him and Jon on stage. Are they smiling, they didn't look at each other. They talked, it was fake, only for stage!

I don't know... but he's sparked one of the most f*cked-up, sideways, left-field, mind-altering, yo-yo threads we've ever had on this board...

Honestly... this thread has been like watching The Sopranos from start to finish... pat yourselves on the back everyone.

PS. Seb is Adriana. :p

I remember that. He even said that there were times when they were going on stage and they said to themselves, just keep your head down, don't look out into the audience. Some shows were bad.

It wasn't just Europe where they were popular in the nineties, Japan and Australia, they were still popular there. KTF and TD debut at number one on the Australian charts. It was America where their popularity went down but other countries, it was still the same or even better than the Slippery/NJ days. He even had an interview in US weekly magazine and they were calling him the comeback kid (for his acting) and he said he never went anywhere.

Oh but we are and not only visiting North America. Come to a show here in Buenos Aires and we'll kill you, swear to god.

Aloha !

No no. A true American don't need no foreign show, he's got his hands full being loyal to the band in his own country. Well, what's left of it. Not the country, but what's left of the band.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Indeed. An American friend of mine on Facebook just posted a 'tribute' to Richie complete with a picture of Jon hugging Phil X from the previous tour.

Lol yeah, and if he's so eager to make assumptions about a whole continent based on a few examples North America is screwed.. :rolleyes:

Aloha !

I'm so confused. Are you saying the Phil X from previous tour is different to the Phil X from this tour?

I've a feeling Jon is cloning these Phil's, which would mean the one playing with Bon Jovi is Phil XI.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

So, Richie.................

Yeah he died. What can you do?

The greatest Phil's achievement is replace to Richie Sambora. Later it will be forgotten again.

Aww, balls. That sucks, I loved his movies.

I think we all know the one true successor to Richie.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2091/...20c80184_o.jpg

http://tkohub.com/wp-content/uploads...all-guitar.jpg

Yeah, his paintings were awesome too.

Aloha !

Alright, just for you then;

http://www.bonjovi-archives.com/newsignature4.jpg

xo

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Excellent :)

I disagree. The greatest Phil is still Phil Collins.

This is the greatest thread in the history of the interweb without question.

I hope the band carry on and they all leave one by one so we can have similar threads in the future.

Congrats chaps and chappettes. Pure quality.