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SuperBrad 06-22-2014 09:28 AM

Im really pumped for "lets make it baby " i think the talk box version its heaps better than the These days version .... Tho they are both fantastic . Im totally freaked out about Does anybody really fall in love .....

jovifan93 06-22-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bj4ever_hdb (Post 1178721)
I find funny how ppl can judge so ****ing fast

Where am I judging fast? I said that *might* be happening, not that it will... And the Starting All Over Again version from the box set is crap, no one can argue about that ;-)

rolo_tomachi 06-22-2014 12:56 PM

All wrong. They should have included Rosie, In America and Cadillac Man instead of Stick To Your Guns, Wild is the Wind and Homebound Train. That first. Choosing the final version with chorus "I Know" on Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore. And make a better mastering. This was not so hard, just use common sense.

Too good to be true ... bullshit.

Now, Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore is the new Starting All Over Again from Box Set. Thanks Obie :fist:

danfan 06-22-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1178720)
Huh, the "st" is missing somewhere on that version? Didn't notice, probably because I turned it off so quickly after listening to Jon's terribly wrong vocals on that one. The whole power of the song is also missing in that version... Don't know why they even included it in the box set, because it had been previously released (though only as a bonus track in Japan), and then ruin the song in the process :confused: Might be what's happening to Does Anybody now :-(

On 1 of the choruses it is. It sounds so shitty it's shocking they put it on the box set.

danfan 06-22-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1178726)
All wrong. They should have included Rosie, In America and Cadillac Man instead of Stick To Your Guns, Wild is the Wind and Homebound Train. That first. Choosing the final version with chorus "I Know" on Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore. And make a better mastering. This was not so hard, just use common sense.

Too good to be true ... bullshit.

Now, Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore is the new Starting All Over Again from Box Set. Thanks Obie :fist:

Obie really has messed up anything we've had to get excited about as Bon Jovi fans. I wonder if Jon knows and doesn't care because he's pals with him, or if Jon's not aware of just how much some of the fans can't stand the guy.

Rdkopper 06-22-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1178726)
All wrong. They should have included Rosie, In America and Cadillac Man instead of Stick To Your Guns, Wild is the Wind and Homebound Train. That first. Choosing the final version with chorus "I Know" on Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore. And make a better mastering. This was not so hard, just use common sense.

Too good to be true ... bullshit.

Now, Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore is the new Starting All Over Again from Box Set. Thanks Obie :fist:

Also include, We All Sleep Alone!

They managed to F-up the best song on the Set. I'm sure they know that they picked a different version, I'm sure Jon was in on that call too, and I still think it has something to do with the other released versions being identical.

The idea of this set is to give us the most completed feel for each song being that "we never heard them before"... Diamond Ring I get because it's on TDs so the idea behind that is to provide it differently so the pre-production version works.

All the other songs should feel completed as if they were produced somehow in the studio. I initially wondered why Does Anybody was so far down the track listing too.

I was hoping it would be one of those deals where they say "stop, lets do it again" and then redo it with the I Knows but it's doubtful. Based on the track time and chimes leading into the next verse, I'm not getting that.

Mother Fukcers....

DestinationJovi 06-22-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1178681)
But why does it have to be legal/political? I think we're just grabbing at straws because our version of history is being contested. They got rid of the backing vocals on the box set version of Starting all over again, they're just using different takes.

I think the camp knows what the fans have already and it's damned if they do damned if they don't. If they use the same versions but cleaned up the fans outrage because they're selling something we already have. If they change it they mess with history, it's a tough place to be in.

I wonder if there will be an insert discussing the history of these songs/versions like the box set did.

SuperBrad 06-22-2014 08:46 PM

You can get the whole of Diamond Ring now on itunes . Its brilliant !!!!

danfan 06-22-2014 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBrad (Post 1178754)
You can get the whole of Diamond Ring now on itunes . Its brilliant !!!!

Had to switch to the Australian store to listen to the 90 second clip, but from what I heard, I agree. Sounds awesome!

SuperBrad 06-23-2014 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1178761)
Had to switch to the Australian store to listen to the 90 second clip, but from what I heard, I agree. Sounds awesome!

Yeah , it has heaps more character .... Much more feeling and passion sort of . Come on friday !!!!!!! 4 more sleeps ;)

Rdkopper 06-23-2014 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperBrad (Post 1178767)
Yeah , it has heaps more character .... Much more feeling and passion sort of . Come on friday !!!!!!! 4 more sleeps ;)

Is it the same version as the preproduction one?

Jay Jay 06-23-2014 05:53 AM

Super deluxe edition does not come out till the 4th July in Australia as told by JB HiFi!

SuperBrad 06-23-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1178780)
Is it the same version as the preproduction one?

I think its different .... Either way its 50,000 time better quality . Soooooo good .

SuperBrad 06-23-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Jay (Post 1178782)
Super deluxe edition does not come out till the 4th July in Australia as told by JB HiFi!

Yeah that sucks ! Itunes should still be this friday . So thats something ;)

Ghostorm 06-23-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1178664)
Does anybody really fall in love anymore was my favourite song of the New Jersey demos and they completely ruined it. They can all go **** themselves.

Couldn't agree more :(

anameli 06-23-2014 11:19 AM

wow must be very nice to be involved in the project bon jovi
http://portalpark.net/10204/28/g.png

SuperBrad 06-23-2014 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by anameli (Post 1178808)
wow must be very nice to be involved in the project bon jovi
http://portalpark.net/10204/28/g.png

Oh its lovely ! Join us .....

jasonjbj 06-23-2014 11:52 AM

my play.com order

New Jersey (2CD & DVD Super Deluxe Edition) - Bon Jovi (CD)
Sold by:
Speedyhen
Processing in warehouse

danfan 06-23-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonjbj (Post 1178811)
my play.com order

New Jersey (2CD & DVD Super Deluxe Edition) - Bon Jovi (CD)
Sold by:
Speedyhen
Processing in warehouse

Thanks for the update.

I just bought a 6 pack of Charmin at Wal-Mart. Should last me the week.

bj4ever_hdb 06-23-2014 07:50 PM

Growin' Up the Hard Way is available now

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...deluxe-reissue

danfan 06-23-2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bj4ever_hdb (Post 1178863)
Growin' Up the Hard Way is available now

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...deluxe-reissue

I think that's my least favorite.

bonjovi90 06-23-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1178873)
I think that's my least favorite.

I absolutely love the old demo recordings we've had for decades now but this mix falls totally flat on me as well.

Rdkopper 06-23-2014 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1178877)
I absolutely love the old demo recordings we've had for decades now but this mix falls totally flat on me as well.

I'll second that....

I'm done with these on-line versions too. I don't think the quality is as sharp as to what will be on the CD.

I'm already anticipating the next announcement. Hopefully Crush with the completed Sex Sells as a Bonus disc, then KTF as it's originally intended double CD.

Supersonic 06-23-2014 09:48 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1178877)
I absolutely love the old demo recordings we've had for decades now but this mix falls totally flat on me as well.

It's because it's got the same kind of mix they're doing for the live releases, meaning it's very flat and compressed, and doesn't actually sound like a real band playing, and the music doesn't breathe anymore. It's kind of what I expected.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

steel_horse75 06-23-2014 09:51 PM

Heard the diamond ring snippet - still don't like it.

I wonder if NJ had been released as a double album what order the songs would've been in.

I'd like to think they'd keep the first 3 as it is but would be interesting to know what order they had planned for a double

Lucas_Roli 06-23-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1178878)
I'll second that....

I'm done with these on-line versions too. I don't think the quality is as sharp as to what will be on the CD.

I'm already anticipating the next announcement. Hopefully Crush with the completed Sex Sells as a Bonus disc, then KTF as it's originally intended double CD.

When did Jon say that KTF was intended to be a double disk? I never heard that.
Do you remember in which interview?

Captain_jovi 06-23-2014 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1178878)
I'll second that....

I'm done with these on-line versions too. I don't think the quality is as sharp as to what will be on the CD.

I'm already anticipating the next announcement. Hopefully Crush with the completed Sex Sells as a Bonus disc, then KTF as it's originally intended double CD.

Man, yes please.

Rdkopper 06-23-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas_Roli (Post 1178881)
When did Jon say that KTF was intended to be a double disk? I never heard that.
Do you remember in which interview?

I forgot.

Maybe it was on the Box Set DVD.

DestinationJovi 06-23-2014 10:16 PM

Not sure if this was posted yet.

http://youtu.be/TYbEB7tQF80

Dave 1986 06-23-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas_Roli (Post 1178881)
When did Jon say that KTF was intended to be a double disk? I never heard that.
Do you remember in which interview?

It was on the Box Set DVD. The YouTube link was posted here a while ago. Can't remember exactly when it occurs on the DVD though.

angelsambo 06-24-2014 12:08 AM

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...deluxe-reissue

LeaJovi 06-24-2014 12:18 AM

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...deluxe-reissue

My gosh !!

rolo_tomachi 06-24-2014 12:48 PM

I want to hear the mess they have made with Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore

Lucas_Roli 06-24-2014 12:52 PM

I really hope they won't f*ck up Backdoor To Heaven cause that's my fav.

rolo_tomachi 06-24-2014 01:13 PM

I think the star launch will who comes at Christmas. I hope it's a new box set. I'd hate a compilation of the last live tour or similar.

semigoodlookin 06-24-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1178936)
I think the star launch will who comes at Christmas. I hope it's a new box set. I'd hate a compilation of the last live tour or similar.

Yeah, how depressing would that be. I simply wouldn't buy it.

That said, I think the only way we'll get a live DVD is alongside some other release or if they just haven't bothered doing anything else.

rolo_tomachi 06-24-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by semigoodlookin (Post 1178947)
Yeah, how depressing would that be. I simply wouldn't buy it.

That said, I think the only way we'll get a live DVD is alongside some other release or if they just haven't bothered doing anything else.

Well, I would be very happy if they release An Evening With BJ remastered on DVD.

Nige 06-24-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1178948)
Well, I would be very happy if they release An Evening With BJ remastered on DVD.

Extended four hour version I trust? That'd be awesome!

Rdkopper 06-24-2014 03:52 PM

RECAP:

Next week is the big release day in the US... Just focusing on disc 2, we already have 6 of the 13 songs.

- Homebound Train
- Full Moon High
- Now And Forever
- Judgement Day
- Diamond Ring
- Growing Up The Hard Way

- On top of that we also got to hear 30 seconds of each song off the entire album.

(I will say that all the full versions posted on Soundcloud and Yahoo Video aren't as good in quality as the I-Tune versions (obviously). I did a comparison using Full Moon High... so if you still don't think that they are up to par based on all these full samples, it does get even better. )

All in all, I'm extremely satisfied with the quality results of this set. Diamond Ring was actually a really nice surprise.

Unfortunately, due to all the above, there really isn't too much for me to look forward to on release day - Damm I hate the internet but I just can't help myself.

My big three are now:

- House Of Fire
- Does Anybody Fall In Love - I'll hold my breath
- And the Booklet - mainly for the overview on each song

I did do a mini mix of the "I Knows" using the sample and leaked version. I was just curious to hear how it blended and it actually mixed pretty well. It's not going to be perfect and not an alternate to the Deluxe Version but it will satisfy a void for those who need it.

Other than that, I hope they make the next announcement soon as to what future release we can expect.

Thanks everyone for staying on top of this and making this release somewhat enjoyable. And although we can pretty much write-off Cadillac Man at this point (which aside from the I Knows being removed, might be the other big disappointment with this set), BONJOVI90 did an amazing job providing us a really get version in the best quality I own to date... Good Stuff....

rolo_tomachi 06-24-2014 04:19 PM

Angry for "Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore", but the rest seems fine.


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