I adore that song.... Just sayin' :D

He's such a tease. LOL, just saying, yolo :bday:

I still really disagree. The drums are far too "big" to be Nashville on the last two records. These Days was recorded IN Nashville and we wouldn't call it that. It's the same Bon Jovi just way lazier. I dno, I really don't hear it.

Lost Highway is my second favorite album to These Days and I don't find it country at all. I think many of them are timeless like those on TD.

Everyone should read the 'Richie Sambora Fans' page on Facebook. Absolutely embarrassing.

nah, i can do without throwing up my mouth.

Erik and I tried to be respectful and show them why throwing insult after insult to Jon and not having a bad word said about Richie is wrong. Apparently, we're not 'true fans'.

It was just a word joke because he said you couldn't put the two of them in one sentence.. Of course I know what he meant, but I found it funny nevertheless :-D Need a little cheering up in this whole mess ;-)

lol been there, done that. Seems okay to say what they like about JBJ because Richie of course is an angel fallen from heaven and of course hes not shown up for work but that's ok because obviously his adoring fans love him unconditionally and whatever he's doing must of course be satan Jon's fault.

Yeah, you're right... You can't really tell one's intentions with certain posts and I assumed the worst. Sorry!


Thanks for the heads-up. I'll make sure NOT to go there, or I'll end up getting banned from Facebook without a doubt. I don't want that and I don't need to read their bullshit. But you guys are heroes for doing what you're doing, seriously.

The abuse Erik received was ridiculous.

They also believe 100% that the band can't sell any tickets next tour without Richie as he is 'the main man'. :lol:

Do you know what's embarrassing?

A 19 year old man going around with a 20 year old man on Facebook trying to stick up for Jon Bon Jovi. You should be out getting drunk and laid but instead you're online trying to one up other sad internet people. That's the real tragedy here.

You've been spouting the same drivel for the past few weeks. You like Jon over Richie, we get it. Go drink an Irn Bru and vote for independence. Something good might come of it.

Do you know what's embarrassing?

Somebody telling another person how they should act and how they should live. That's the real tragedy here.

Haha it was great. I eventually stopped commenting. No way I could win, even when I stated plain, logical arguments they replied with "Y U ON RICHIE SAMBORA FAN PAGE THEN GET OUT LOL"

First of all: Love's The Only Rule country?! People, you really need to tell us what you're smoking. LTOR has nothing to do with Lost Highway, please listen an album before talking about it.

So the fact that, according to you, it isn't "rock" makes it crap? First of all rock is a very open musical genre, and second, a song or album might not be "rock" and still be good.

People that say Lost Highway is crap ('cause they don't say they don't like it, just say that it's crap) never give a good argument or just say that it isn't rock. That doesn't make it bad.

And gotta agree with Captain_Jovi, Saturday Night has that country-ish sound not so far to the one on Lost Highway but still everyone likes it.

How do you know they haven't stayed true to themselves? How do you know they didn't honestly wanted to do Lost Highway and didn't do it for the money. Jon couldn't believe it when the album was #1. They're 50, Klaus Meine said once "I can't write all the time songs about chasing girls, give me a break!". Yes, I love those duets. And you seem to forget that his group is a bunch of people, people that change with time and that "staying true to themselves" now can mean something different than when they were 25. I used to listen only metal when I was 13, now I listen everything, and I listen songs that I never believed I could hear back them. People change, bands change.

Also, Bon Jovi was never a "rock" band, they were always a pop band, they always took influences from the trends and elaborated their own sound, they always were a "pop-metal" band, a "pop-rock" band or a "pop-country rock" band, that's what they are and what they always were.

About Bobby, I won't say anything, I want him out too :p

Oh wow! It must have been kind of like trying to convince people here that it's a shame fans are giving up on Richie before they have all the facts. And we've seen what a lost cause THAT is!

I guess the question I have is why were you even ON a Richie Sambora fan page (hello, that would be a hint!) trying to convince anyone that they should look at the facts logically. That's hard enough to do on this board where there's a mix of Jon, Richie, and Band fans.

Did it cross your mind that you just might be opening yourselves to some abuse?

So does What's Left Of Me. And even Wanted is country-ish. The thing is, these songs don't suck.

What's Left Of Me is worse that anything in Lost Highway.

I don't get this. I'm on several "Jon Bon Jovi" fan pages and probably on some "Richie Sambora" fan pages, but if I see people talking crap, I call them out on it. Being a Richie Sambora fan or a Jon Bon Jovi fan or both (and yes, it's actually possible, surprise-surprise!) isn't a freeway to assholeness or plain stupidity. You can and should still be logical.

Um, gonna have to disagree with ya there.

…that, for the record, has its roots in COUNTRY music, in case anyone needs a refresher in the history of rock.




My guess is the only reason some like Saturday Night and they don't like Lost Highway is because they didn't hear ahead of time that the band was going to be recording Saturday Night in Nashville and that it was going to be a "Nashville-influenced" recording. Didn't really matter what it sounded like.

And after Jon and Richie used similar same phrases while promoting Lost Highway, those songs could have sounded like Black Sabbath or Megadeth and a lot of people would still have cried, "Country!! Eewwww! I wanna ROCK!"

I agree with you, Ezearis (and have wanted to get back to respond to your other thread about Lost Highway). I never thought I’d hear a Bon Jovi fan admit that LH is one of their favorite BJ albums and that the songs are really good. In my opinion, with the possible exception of SWW, it’s their best. No apologies. (Oh wait, that’s on another album…)

Nope.

Anyway, I know I've been saying this forever, but this whole "country" argument would never be happening if they hadn't marketed LH as a country album.

Agree, I gotta admit I didn't listened to Lost Highway until 2009 because of that. I only used to hear Memory... and that's all. Then my father bought it saying "you don't have this one" and I was like "meh". Until I heard it on the car and thought that it was good :D

You might wanna double-check that one. The rhythm & blues-influences, which accencuated the "danceability", were extremely important to rock & roll. There's a bit of country to it as well, sure, but really, the white man had the schmalz, the black man had the blues.

Holy shit they already buried Richie. :(

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I agree and I wasn't saying they shouldn't be logical. My question was why someone who is already pissed because some Richie fans think that he "of course is an angel fallen from heaven and of course hes not shown up for work but that's ok because obviously his adoring fans love him unconditionally and whatever he's doing must of course be satan Jon's fault" (no prejudice at all in THAT statement, though!) then why would they go to a "RICHIE SAMBORA FAN PAGE" and expect to find anything different? I admit freely that I like Richie but even I can't handle some of that shit. On most of the sites that I see that are set up specifically for Jon or Richie, it's pretty clear that logic or objectivity has no place there and woe be unto the person who dares to suggest that their HERO (whichever it is) is less than perfect.

Not surprised in the least, actually. I walk that same line you do. I just have one foot on the Richie side, whereas you have on foot on Jon's.

And if only the world felt about that as you and I do, then a lot of this would have already gone away and probably with less than the first 100 pages. (Can I put a smiley here, or will that piss you off again? Ah hell... I'm gonna risk it! :D)

No I don't think I need to check the statement I made; but I'll clarify it for those who may have read it with the same interpretation that it seems you did. I didn't say, nor did I mean to imply, that Rock was ONLY rooted in Country. Of course, the Blues was a strong influence, as was Jazz and Gospel; I was just pointing out that Rock has roots in Country Music (and Nashville) because that was the other genre under discussion and people seem to think there is this great divide between them; when especially today, it's more about marketing than it is anything else. My 2 cents.

Aloha !

:D

When looking at the size of that grave I'd say they buried half a liquor store with him.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Local radio station just tweeted the story with Richie's alleged text to Jon telling him to "Hire The Edge" and asked which side we were on. Great way to advertise a concert coming up on 7/23, right?

I happened to notice that Sean Borg, that PR guy that was pictured with Nikki and Richie in the photos that came out a few weeks ago, re-Tweeted the "Hire the Edge' story on his Twitter page.

Though I don't know if he is 'representing' Richie in any official way, I found it interesting that he chose to post that article. It makes me wonder if there is more truth to it than not, since if Richie and Sean had communicated recently and it was an inaccurate article, Richie probably would have insisted it be removed or Sean would have known it was false and not perpetuated the story by posting it.

Just a thought....

Also, I love the 'buried Richie' pic lol. If this ever gets resolved, someone should create a thread with all of the creative pictures from this saga for an 'illustrated history.'

Woah. LOL


That's not prejudice. You said it yourself, "SOME" Richie fans, not ALL. It's true, some Richie fans are totally nuts and actually think like that. Just as some Jon fans do the same thing. Prejudice would be saying that all of them do it, but of course that's not the case! Now, I can't speak for them, but just like I am on their fan pages, they could be there too. I've seen crap posted on pages that I've been following for a while. I didn't start following them with the intention of having a safe madhouse to vent my irrationality, but simply out of admiration for the people I'm a fan of. If other people on the page happen to be idiots, I can only do good by trying and improve the overall quality of the page's posts. Mind you, nowadays I ignore a whole lot of more stuff. In the distant past, I would bring myself headaches over shit I read.


You probably won't believe me, but this wasn't aimed at you. I know you can be objective (at least when you want!).



Sure thing.
And I have nothing against emoticons, I actually couldn't live without them! You don't see me using many, because for some reason they just don't come as natural to me here. But I usually do, a lot. I didn't like the emoticon last time, because I perceived it as an attempt to somehow be patronizing or ambiguous... you get the picture. This time, all is good and well!

Back then, I noticed the guy pretty much would retweet anything Richie posted, anything Nikki posted and also anything the gutter press posted about this matter. I remember thinking it was kinda weird, because apparently he's friends with both Richie and Nikki, and I wouldn't expect a friend to retweet and spread the bullshit about me. Now of course it's Hollywood, and I'm probably oblivious to what "friendship" even means in that scary place.

We need to compile this thread in a book, pretty sure that I'd be a best seller.

That story has Nikki Reed written all over it. She is one person who is loving all of this.

Like, honestly, if Richie just came out and said he'd quit Bon Jovi, i'd be okay. I mean, i'd be upset, but it would be settled. And I loved Richie's solo album much more than I liked WAN. If Richie wanted to pursue his own interests i'd support it, even if it had no mainstream appeal. I've seen BJ 5 times, and I loved their show in Buffalo in February. If that was the end, then that was the end. I just saw Guns n Roses and loved it, even if Axl was the only original member. I used to be disappointed that it wasn't the true band but over time I had gotten past it. I mean, I though WAN sucked. In my mind it was the worst album of their career. If that's the future of BJ there's no need for Richie to be a part of it or for me to even care. I'd much rather Richie be happy and churn out material that he presented on AOTL.

Where is the "like" button? ;)

Me too - *like*

You mean Nikki Lund, or am I missing something?

On the one hand, it's funny how people it's making fun of this strange Richie situation but on the other hand, it's sad people are talking like this (alcohol issues, philx is better than Richie..) of Richie :(