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jessycardy 06-13-2013 10:02 AM

Apparently, this was posted two days ago, but only surfaced now. Jon speaks out about Richie again.

There's also an audio clip, so it's the real deal.

http://www.wrif.com/gmi/story.aspx?ID=1981955

Quote:

"Same thing I've said since day one -- personal issue. We miss him, love him and he's welcome to come back when he's ready, and that's all I can tell ya... There's not a definitive date. It's up to... He's going through some stuff... It's difficult for me, too, but that's the story."

Walleris 06-13-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1138345)
Apparently, this was posted two days ago, but only surfaced now. Jon speaks out about Richie again.

There's also an audio clip, so it's the real deal.

http://www.wrif.com/gmi/story.aspx?ID=1981955

Well, he mellowed his tone comparing to "you gotta ask him" from a couple of weeks ago. Does that mean the return more likely or is he just being more polite so it would be more encouraging for Richie to come back? Probably neither :D

jessycardy 06-13-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1138349)
Well, he mellowed his tone comparing to "you gotta ask him" from a couple of weeks ago. Does that mean the return more likely or is he just being more polite so it would be more encouraging for Richie to come back? Probably neither :D

He's basically continuing on the original route he came back to with that interview he gave while in Stockholm. I think he was about to say: "it's up to him", but eventually went for a more watery wording.

KeepTheFaith2211 06-13-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tictoc (Post 1138296)
Do you know what's embarrassing?

A 19 year old man going around with a 20 year old man on Facebook trying to stick up for Jon Bon Jovi. You should be out getting drunk and laid but instead you're online trying to one up other sad internet people. That's the real tragedy here.

Okay. Fair enough.

rainsong 06-13-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spidey5150 (Post 1138336)
Like, honestly, if Richie just came out and said he'd quit Bon Jovi, i'd be okay. I mean, i'd be upset, but it would be settled. And I loved Richie's solo album much more than I liked WAN. If Richie wanted to pursue his own interests i'd support it, even if it had no mainstream appeal. I've seen BJ 5 times, and I loved their show in Buffalo in February. If that was the end, then that was the end. I just saw Guns n Roses and loved it, even if Axl was the only original member. I used to be disappointed that it wasn't the true band but over time I had gotten past it. I mean, I though WAN sucked. In my mind it was the worst album of their career. If that's the future of BJ there's no need for Richie to be a part of it or for me to even care. I'd much rather Richie be happy and churn out material that he presented on AOTL.

No offense but I just don't get what some thought was so great about AMOTLD. To me it was much like Richie seems to be these days, just kind of all over the place. There were individual songs, 2 to be exact, that I really liked, but as an album, for me anyway, it had no flow. It seemed to be a jumbled mess of styles, bits and pieces of things Richie likes , but with no cohesive style.

Walkerboy 06-13-2013 11:56 AM

Totally agree with rainsong.
I can't listen to Aftermath at all - it's just a horrible mixture of stuff.

bonjovi90 06-13-2013 01:10 PM

I used to strongly dislike AOTL when it came out (or rather when it leaked), but have grown to really enjoy most of the tunes - especially after seeing them live. I'm really lovin' Seven Years Gone and You Can Only Get So High and I'd even go that far to say they are among the best ones Richie has written.
Still, as an album, it isn't a masterpiece by any means. But it pisses all over WAN for me. The latter one is mostly a piece of junk to my ears - but each to their own :D

JoviJovi 06-13-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1138339)
You mean Nikki Lund, or am I missing something?

If I were a betting woman, my money would be on her being the "source" of many of these leaks including the original one to TMZ.

Gabriel Shoes 06-13-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1138332)
We need to compile this thread in a book, pretty sure that I'd be a best seller.

LOL

But about Richie, am I wrong or he's been not denying those rumours? It's a tip that they're true I guess.

schlochty 06-13-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1138375)
I used to strongly dislike AOTL when it came out (or rather when it leaked), but have grown to really enjoy most of the tunes - especially after seeing them live. I'm really lovin' Seven Years Gone and You Can Only Get So High and I'd even go that far to say they are among the best ones Richie has written.
Still, as an album, it isn't a masterpiece by any means. But it pisses all over WAN for me. The latter one is mostly a piece of junk to my ears - but each to their own :D

I feel the exact same way. The release of WAN has massively improved my appreciation for AOTL despite the fact that it is by no means a masterpiece. In hindsight, for AOTL has so much more Bon Jovi in it than WAN does.

crashed 06-13-2013 03:33 PM

There are far more good songs to me on What About Now than there are on Aftermath - Water, I'm With You, What's Left Of Me, Beautiful World - their all really solid tracks whereas Aftermath for me only has Seven Years Gone.

Aftermath has some nice guitar work but that's all it is - just a burst of random guitar that almost doesn't even seem to be part of the song it's connected to.

Kiwi78 06-13-2013 03:37 PM

New Jon article that mentions Richie again, think its fairly recent but nothing new apart from ruling out there is no official date LOL

http://www.wrif.com/gmi/story.aspx?ID=1981955


"Same thing I've said since day one -- personal issue. We miss him, love him and he's welcome to come back when he's ready, and that's all I can tell ya...There's not a definitive date. It's up to...He's going through some stuff...It's difficult for me, too, but that's the story."

Sissy3 06-13-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwi78 (Post 1138396)
New Jon article that mentions Richie again, think its fairly recent but nothing new apart from ruling out there is no official date LOL

http://www.wrif.com/gmi/story.aspx?ID=1981955


"Same thing I've said since day one -- personal issue. We miss him, love him and he's welcome to come back when he's ready, and that's all I can tell ya...There's not a definitive date. It's up to...He's going through some stuff...It's difficult for me, too, but that's the story."

Or is that just the story they're sticking to?

Sambo-Chris 06-13-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel Shoes (Post 1138390)
LOL

But about Richie, am I wrong or he's been not denying those rumours? It's a tip that they're true I guess.

He denied the rumour that the clothing line would be the reason. But that's all.

jessycardy 06-13-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi78 (Post 1138396)
New Jon article that mentions Richie again, think its fairly recent but nothing new apart from ruling out there is no official date LOL

http://www.wrif.com/gmi/story.aspx?ID=1981955


"Same thing I've said since day one -- personal issue. We miss him, love him and he's welcome to come back when he's ready, and that's all I can tell ya...There's not a definitive date. It's up to...He's going through some stuff...It's difficult for me, too, but that's the story."

I actually posted this two pages ago. Nobody pays attention to me. *cries*

Solid Sambora 06-13-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1138403)
I actually posted this two pages ago. Nobody pays attention to me. *cries*

I'm just surprised it wasn't TheseDaysEra who posted it again. Give it a day or two...

ben 06-13-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1138403)
I actually posted this two pages ago. Nobody pays attention to me. *cries*


Oh my love!!!
I'm here for you. I always read your posts.
please don't cry :))

I'm here to wipe your tears :p:D:D

Solid Sambora 06-13-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tictoc (Post 1138297)
You've been spouting the same drivel for the past few weeks. You like Jon over Richie, we get it. Go drink an Irn Bru and vote for independence. Something good might come of it.

Think this Tictoc fella has some Independence issues. Or perhaps he's a touch xenophobic?

LeaJovi 06-13-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi78 (Post 1138396)
New Jon article that mentions Richie again, think its fairly recent but nothing new apart from ruling out there is no official date LOL

http://www.wrif.com/gmi/story.aspx?ID=1981955


"Same thing I've said since day one -- personal issue. We miss him, love him and he's welcome to come back when he's ready, and that's all I can tell ya...There's not a definitive date. It's up to...He's going through some stuff...It's difficult for me, too, but that's the story."

Thanks for posting this for the first time ever in this thread. :D

crashed 06-13-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tictoc (Post 1138297)
You've been spouting the same drivel for the past few weeks. You like Jon over Richie, we get it. Go drink an Irn Bru and vote for independence. Something good might come of it.

I never even noticed the post. Actually I don't like anybody over anybody. If there's something to bash Jon for I'll do it except right now he's being the professional and Richie's not - I may come across as a Jon defender because well, he takes a lot of stick on here that isn't necessarily always deserved. I've just no interest in jumping on the hate-Jon bandwagon - but can appreciate why it comes across like I prefer one band member over the other. In reality, I'm a fan of the music. That's the be all and end all of it.

As to your other pretty needless comments - I like Irn-Bru. On the fence about independence.

DevilsSon 06-13-2013 06:40 PM

Have you guys seen this one. Pretty interesting...

http://www.wrif.com/gmi/story.aspx?ID=1981955

C'monFeet 06-13-2013 07:00 PM

In the light of the reports coming out of the Michael Jackson trial, it's probably a good thing that Richie is nowhere near AEG live if he's not 100%

Whatever the issues, almost certainly they'll be tied up with lawyers for a length of time (stress in itself) even if they're resolved personally.

Tictoc 06-13-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1138411)
Think this Tictoc fella has some Independence issues. Or perhaps he's a touch xenophobic?

I think Scotland should be independent, it can support itself and you can get away from the Tories. A win win surely?

I'm all for Irn Bru too. Nothing Xenophobic about me.

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Originally Posted by crashed (Post 1138413)
I never even noticed the post. Actually I don't like anybody over anybody. If there's something to bash Jon for I'll do it except right now he's being the professional and Richie's not - I may come across as a Jon defender because well, he takes a lot of stick on here that isn't necessarily always deserved. I've just no interest in jumping on the hate-Jon bandwagon - but can appreciate why it comes across like I prefer one band member over the other. In reality, I'm a fan of the music. That's the be all and end all of it.

As to your other pretty needless comments - I like Irn-Bru. On the fence about independence.

I don't really have a problem with your opinion but you keep regurgitating the same things over and over again to the point that it's become a bit sickening.

Lisa71 06-13-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1138339)
You mean Nikki Lund, or am I missing something?

Sorry, yes I meant Nikki Lund. I didn't even realise that I wrote Reed.


Quote:
If I were a betting woman, my money would be on her being the "source" of many of these leaks including the original one to TMZ.


Yes, if you had to bet. Put your money on that because it's very likely that she is the source of most of these articles and leaks.

jessycardy 06-13-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 1138410)
Oh my love!!!
I'm here for you. I always read your posts.
please don't cry :))

I'm here to wipe your tears :p:D:D

Is it sick that I was actually expecting a comment like this from you? LOL


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Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1138409)
I'm just surprised it wasn't TheseDaysEra who posted it again. Give it a day or two...

I may pee my pants if this happens for real. LOL

crashed 06-13-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tictoc (Post 1138421)
I think Scotland should be independent, it can support itself and you can get away from the Tories. A win win surely?

I'm all for Irn Bru too. Nothing Xenophobic about me.



I don't really have a problem with your opinion but you keep regurgitating the same things over and over again to the point that it's become a bit sickening.

Well that's because the same subjects keep coming up, but feel free not to read anything that makes you want to puke. I'd hate to be the cause of anyone's projectile vomit.

Anyway after this many hundreds of pages if anyone has anything new to say, I'd love to hear it ;)

crashed 06-13-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crashed (Post 1138433)
Well that's because the same subjects keep coming up, but feel free not to read anything that makes you want to puke. I'd hate to be the cause of anyone's projectile vomit.

Anyway after this many hundreds of pages if anyone has anything new to say, I'd love to hear it ;)

Except I'm off to bed. Early flight to Dublin tomorrow. Night gang.

Lost_Faith 06-13-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by crashed (Post 1138394)
There are far more good songs to me on What About Now than there are on Aftermath - Water, I'm With You, What's Left Of Me, Beautiful World - their all really solid tracks whereas Aftermath for me only has Seven Years Gone.

Aftermath has some nice guitar work but that's all it is - just a burst of random guitar that almost doesn't even seem to be part of the song it's connected to.

To each his own. I think that AOTL is the worst RS solo album but it still pisses over the crap WAN cd. I think it is their worst effort beating even the horrible LH. Water is the only bearablke song. I'm with you is a snoozefest and way to slow, What's left of me is the failed attempt to recreate the magic of SIBSN, and Beautiful World sounds love PINK. I love Pink but when it is sung by her not by a 51 yr old ex rocker trying to stay "current" by singing a pink like SOng. The other tracks you did not even mention are forgettable.

SYG has more substance and depth than the whole WAN record. I still think RS 's absence is due to the music which he is not into anymore.

Juls Sambora 06-13-2013 10:39 PM

Aftermath has these two things that I miss on What about now: passion and sincerity. Just listen to You can only get so high. Richie lived every line from that song. Look how he performed it on stage. He was so into it.

crashed 06-14-2013 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost_Faith (Post 1138451)
To each his own. I think that AOTL is the worst RS solo album but it still pisses over the crap WAN cd. I think it is their worst effort beating even the horrible LH. Water is the only bearablke song. I'm with you is a snoozefest and way to slow, What's left of me is the failed attempt to recreate the magic of SIBSN, and Beautiful World sounds love PINK. I love Pink but when it is sung by her not by a 51 yr old ex rocker trying to stay "current" by singing a pink like SOng. The other tracks you did not even mention are forgettable.

SYG has more substance and depth than the whole WAN record. I still think RS 's absence is due to the music which he is not into anymore.

I actually agree that Seven Years Gone is better than anything on What About Now -but Seven Years Gone is an incredible track that trumps a lot of the Bon Jovi back catalogue and all of Richie's previous solo stuff. If Aftermath had more tracks along those lines I'd probably like it better, but as it is, it's the only song that really feels like Richie to me.

If his absence is because he's "not into the music though", that isn't acceptable to me - because at most their playing a few new songs each night. How could he still not be into Wanted, or I'll Be There For You or the dozens of other amazing songs he and Jon wrote together?

Jayster 06-14-2013 04:10 AM

On a Richie note, I was listening to WSFM here in Sydney in the car on the way to work this morning.

They do this competition where you go to their website and guess which 'classic hits artist' is behind a almost fully closed blind. Anyway, today it was Richie Sambora and some woman won $1000.

Anyway the interesting part came afterwards when the two DJ's were recalling they interviewed Richie last time he was in Sydney in his hotel room. Richie had a glass of coke, and Amanda, who had no idea he was a recovering alcoholic, asked him what was in his glass.

"Just Coke" Richie said and she pretended not to believe him, went over and sniffed his glass!

Then Jonesy, the other host, said not long after that Richie went on a massive bender and it was all Amanda's fault.

It was an amusing start to my day.

I was impressed by the fact that no one felt the need to point out that Richie was the Bon Jovi guitarist at any point.

Jayster 06-14-2013 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by crashed (Post 1138548)
I actually agree that Seven Years Gone is better than anything on What About Now -but Seven Years Gone is an incredible track that trumps a lot of the Bon Jovi back catalogue and all of Richie's previous solo stuff. If Aftermath had more tracks along those lines I'd probably like it better, but as it is, it's the only song that really feels like Richie to me.

If his absence is because he's "not into the music though", that isn't acceptable to me - because at most their playing a few new songs each night. How could he still not be into Wanted, or I'll Be There For You or the dozens of other amazing songs he and Jon wrote together?

Yeah, but it could have been a tiff over him criticizing the new stuff. Remember at the Radio 1 gig they played 7 new songs and Jon said later 'the band told me that was too much'. Anyway, it's all just guessing until the fateful day when Richie tweets "Just to let you all know I have left Bon Jovi, thanks for the memories".

SadieLady 06-14-2013 04:24 AM

"Weathering the Storm," "Seven Years Gone," and "You Can Only Get So High" are gorgeous songs and I listen to them a lot. I adore his voice and that is what I miss most about this whole situation. Not being a musician I don't understand the intricacies of his guitar playing that everyone else is into even though I appreciate it. I think the longer this goes on, the harder it is going to be for Richie to return if indeed the "personal issue" is between him and Jon. Even though I am still hoping for the best, I am beginning to expect the worst--that he may not return.

crashed 06-14-2013 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayster (Post 1138552)
Yeah, but it could have been a tiff over him criticizing the new stuff. Remember at the Radio 1 gig they played 7 new songs and Jon said later 'the band told me that was too much'. Anyway, it's all just guessing until the fateful day when Richie tweets "Just to let you all know I have left Bon Jovi, thanks for the memories".

If the problem is the music Richie is in a far better position than anyone to influence what the band puts out - well, if he shows up that is.

Jayster 06-14-2013 05:55 AM

Even the Guardian is at it;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013...-bon-jovi-edge

crashed 06-14-2013 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayster (Post 1138555)

Wow, the Guardian picking up gutter press rumours that haven't in any way been substantiated. Seen it all now.

rightsideofwrong 06-14-2013 08:17 AM

I'm not familiar with the guardian. What is that?

baileybums 06-14-2013 10:44 AM

So I just got back from the Sunderland show and I put I review in that post but wanted to address the richie disappearance on here as only time I ever seen them without him

Well I wasn't as bothered as some by his disappearance any way and I've just lost a lot of respect from him . .

And after last night as far as I'm concerned he can stay away . . Phil did amazing ... Was great on stage . . Interacted with he fans and looked to have some great banter with all of the band . . He's just having fun out there, I only noticed richie wasn't there once . . During the WANTEDs from dead or alive . . And that's not a big deal . .

Starting to really like this phil x and I just think richie is making it harder and harder to come back now . . Every time phil did a solo everyone around me was applauding him . . . I think he's starting to get accepted .

Over all great show and out of 9 shows I been to well up there as the best . .

One bummer is. Couldn't take my camera in . . Classed as a pro camera apparently . . Well I am a photographer . .

sambos apprentice 06-14-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by baileybums (Post 1138574)
So I just got back from the Sunderland show and I put I review in that post but wanted to address the richie disappearance on here as only time I ever seen them without him

Well I wasn't as bothered as some by his disappearance any way and I've just lost a lot of respect from him . .

And after last night as far as I'm concerned he can stay away . . Phil did amazing ... Was great on stage . . Interacted with he fans and looked to have some great banter with all of the band . . He's just having fun out there, I only noticed richie wasn't there once . . During the WANTEDs from dead or alive . . And that's not a big deal . .

Starting to really like this phil x and I just think richie is making it harder and harder to come back now . . Every time phil did a solo everyone around me was applauding him . . . I think he's starting to get accepted .

Over all great show and out of 9 shows I been to well up there as the best . .

One bummer is. Couldn't take my camera in . . Classed as a pro camera apparently . . Well I am a photographer . .


with all respect, phil x is nothing on richie sambora. yeah he s faster and flashier but richie is the guy that wrote these tunes!

taker5962 06-14-2013 11:08 AM

yes, but Richie is the man who said f*ck to all his fans around the world...
Fans who were going to his solo shows (me and many of you), who bought Aftermath...

Thanks to Phil X to make this possible, and play the game afterall !


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