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Becky 07-01-2015 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1188967)
Also, is Jon going to support Hillary next year or someone else? Or is that uncertain at this point?


She hasn't gotten the party's nomination yet. There are a bunch of other candidates. She seemed a sure thing 2 elections ago and then Obama came along.

ETA:
On the subject of the songs:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ro_981854.html

Becky 07-01-2015 02:59 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/30/politi...Most+Recent%29

If you scroll down the Yahoo home page news selections, there are 4 stories about this. A bit redundant.

Kathleen 07-01-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1188966)
Let's face it... he's not going to be on the ballot in November.

This is my most fervent hope. Even the New York Times said yesterday that he would be unlikely to carry his own state because he has screwed over New Jerseyans too many times.

rocknation 07-01-2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1188967)
...Christie...using Bon Jovi songs immediately creates associations Jon should try to avoid considering his political views are completely opposite. I think people pay attention to these things.

Exactly -- everyone loses because it calls the basic judgment of Jon, Christie AND Hillary into question. Besides, true "apolitical friends" let each other know when they're doing something that will make them look bad.

rocknation 07-01-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1188977)
This is my most fervent hope. Even the New York Times said yesterday that he would be unlikely to carry his own state because he has screwed over New Jerseyans too many times.

Rachel Maddow concurs with your diagnosis, LOL!

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...6-473968707511

rocknation 07-06-2015 07:46 AM

The first week of Christie's presidential campaign: how did it go?
 
His campaign launch drew about as many protestors as supporters:
North Jersey.com: Governor Christie launched his long-awaited presidential campaign Tuesday...(before) a crowd of about 1,000 inside Livingston High School, his alma mater...

North Jersey.com: More than a thousand demonstrators - mostly dressed in red and carrying banners and signs - congregated on the front lawn outside Livingston High School Tuesday morning to protest Governor Christie announcing his presidential bid...

His campaign launch speech drew mixed reviews: a mix of getting caught in lies...

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NJ.com: Christie said...that he has not raised taxes on New Jerseysans. That's not to say that taxpayers aren't paying more under his administration...(I)n 2010 Christie cut a tax credit on the working poor from 25 percent of the federal credit to 20 percent, a loss of about $117 for the average recipient...Christie's budget proposal for the current fiscal year included nearly two dozen taxes and fees...

ProPublica: When Christie signed his sixth budget on Friday, he reiterated his claim that his contributions to the state’s pensions have far outpaced those of his predecessors. As we pointed out in April, that’s only true if you exclude a $2.75 billion pension contribution by former Republican Gov. Christine Todd Whitman. Christie doesn’t count Whitman’s payment because it was made with borrowed money...

US News.com:
CHRISTIE: "We rolled up our sleeves and we went to work and we balanced six budgets in a row."

THE FACTS: He had no choice. The New Jersey constitution requires balanced budgets, as many states do, and they are achieved one way or the other, often with some accounting tricks.

...and psychoanalysis with a very poor prognosis:
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New York Times: It’s fundamentally nonsense. There are lines between brash and belligerent, between open and obnoxious, and, most important, between “telling it like it is” and not telling the truth. Mr. Christie crosses those lines all the time...

NJ. com: He has a silver tongue. But if you look closely, you can see that it is forked like a serpent's...(M)y warning to America: When Christie picks up the microphone, he speaks so clearly and forcefully that you assume genuine conviction is behind it.

GQ.com: "As far as what his temperament would be like if he were president, well, if Putin said something he didn’t like, he’d hang up and say, ’Give me the black box.’ And there goes Russia. Simple as that."

NorthJersey.com: He is not a man of subtlety and nuance. He is a fist-bumper, a forceful, loud, physical presence that fills a room in a way that is hard to ignore. His fuel is adrenaline, not reflection...His critics call him a bully. His supporters call him decisive. And now, if he becomes president, Chris Christie says he has the stuff that will unite a fractured nation. Really?



He's lost control of his campaign slogan's #TellingItLikeItIs Twitter hashtag
IBTimes.com: More than 3,000 tweets with the hashtag #TellingItLikeItIs were sent via Twitter in the first few hours after Christie made his announcement, according to data compiled by the social-analytics firm Topsy. The sentiment score, measuring the mood of the tweets, was listed as 17 and therefore skewed toward negativity and away from positivity.
- I will tell it like it is, you're an angry fat man who needs anger management courses

- Christie sold out the people of NJ to Exxon. He couldn't care less about us...or you.

- Of course he's lying: His lips are moving.

- Chris Christie has a 31% approval rating, and is the most unpopular governor in the nation!

- "I have a bad economic record."

- Remember when @GovChristie helped hundreds of thousands w/o power instead of running for office? Neither does S. Jersey

- You're a crook, a scam, and an embarrassment to my state. Did you have to check w/Norcross before you ran?

He and a rival candidate were house guests of the Republican who lost the previous U.S. presidential election

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CNN: What does one do at a presidential candidate slumber party? We'll likely never know exactly what happened at Mitt Romney's lakeside summer home in Wolfeboro, New Hampshire, where Chris Christie and Marco Rubio spent the night...

"What matters most to me is that he's a resource for me," said the New Jersey governor, who was an early backer of Romney's 2012 candidacy.

Romney...(said) he didn't give either candidates any advice on running. "These guys will make their own mistakes," Romney said. "Hopefully, they won't follow mine."
I'll try to put this as tactfully as possible, Governor Soprano: You have NO BUSINESS WHATSOEVER being within NINETY-NINE MILES of EITHER of those men!!! Not Rubio, because he, too, is a presidential candidate and should not be privy to your campaign confidences (did you offer him a vice presidential slot?); and not Romney, because his presidential campaign featured such brilliant tactics as not showing his tax returns and suggesting that how he ran his businesses should not be a campaign issue. Political advice from Mitt Romney is like marriage counseling from Henry the Eighth.

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He spent Independence Day Leading A Parade In New Hampshire instead of in New Jersey (DailyKos)



Geez, didn't ANYTHING happen last week that he can feel positive about? Well, yes:
NorthJersey.com: Governor Christie received his first major endorsement...(from Maine governor) Paul LePage, a...conservative with a fiery persona that rivals Christie's..."(T)he only difference I see between Chris Christie and I -- he's a little bit shy. I'm gonna work with him for the next year, bring him out of his shell.”
And no:
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The Rachel Maddow Show:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...e-473966147865

Bangor Daily News: Members of the (Maine) Legislature’s Government Oversight Committee voted unanimously...to start a formal investigation into whether Gov. Paul LePage illegally or unethically used taxpayer money to force Good Will-Hinckley (charter school) to fire House Speaker Mark Eve...

NorthJersey.com: “The first major endorsement Governor Christie receives after announcing he’s running for president is from a governor who is facing impeachment threats for his role in exacting retribution upon a political adversary,” said Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Kaylie Hanson. “Can't say we're surprised.”
But Christie should look on the bright side -- he has nowhere to go BUT up...

Kathleen 07-06-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1189027)

But Christie should look on the bright side -- he has nowhere to go BUT up...

Personally I hope he keeps sinking. And the following article shows that the Lincoln Tunnel Access swindle is still being investigated.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/port...fies-1.1368743

Mousebounce 07-06-2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1189031)
Personally I hope he keeps sinking. And the following article shows that the Lincoln Tunnel Access swindle is still being investigated.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/port...fies-1.1368743


His wife visited my school once. She was totally uncomfortable and awkward around the kids. Spoke volumes in my book.

rocknation 07-07-2015 08:51 PM

Even the LAWYERS are lawyering up?
 
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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 1189033)
(Christie's) wife visited my school once. She was totally uncomfortable and awkward around the kids. Spoke volumes in my book.

And she has four kids of her own? Yes, that is fascinating. And does she always smile as though she wants to bite your head off?

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1189031)
...(T)he following article shows that the Lincoln Tunnel Access swindle is still being investigated.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/port...fies-1.1368743

This is truly fascinating, too:
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...(T)hree in-house attorneys have lawyered up amid an escalating investigation into the Port Authority’s decision to redirect $1.8 billion in toll money from its Hudson River crossings to fix roads in New Jersey...suggest(ing)... (that)...prosecutors and federal regulators are closely examining the legal justification for shifting toll dollars to New Jersey-owned roads...The Port Authority quietly justified the spending by labeling the highways as access roads to the agency’s Lincoln Tunnel — even though they are miles from the tunnel, do not connect to it directly and do not generate any revenues for the Port Authority...

The probe into the Pulaski Skyway repairs...is also casting a light on the Christie administration’s reliance on the Port Authority to fund New Jersey projects: Christie claimed $1.8 billion in toll money only a few months after he and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo approved five years of toll hikes at Port Authority bridges and tunnels...The $1.8 billion was originally slated to go to a new Hudson River rail-tunnel project, called ARC, which Christie canceled his first year in office...All the while he blamed the agency for runaway spending and years of mismanagement...

The probe into the Pulaski Skyway repairs grew from the scrutiny in the wake of the lane-closing scandal but is being led by prosecutors and regulators in New York...The (Security and Exchange Commission) is involved because it enforces federal regulations that maintain the integrity of the bond market...The fact that the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office and the SEC are working together raises the stakes...It is also casting a light on the Christie administration’s reliance on the Port Authority to fund New Jersey projects...

Prosecutors in New York have a powerful investigative tool in the form of the state’s Martin Act...Under the Martin Act, fraud “includes all deceitful practices contrary to the plain rules of common honesty” in the sale or purchase of securities...That language leaves prosecutors with a lot of discretion, experts said. “I would not want to be a public official looking at an investigation under the Martin Act,” (says the) director of New York University’s Program on Corporate Compliance and Enforcement and an expert on securities fraud. “It’s very broad.”
In case you need your memory refreshed, here again is a map of the area in question:

http://www.rocktivity.com/Graphics/pulaski.jpg


And here's a wonderful video the New Jersey Star-Ledger did:
http://www.rocktivity.com/video/christieTonnelle.webm

If it can be legally designated as fraud, AND as a favor to then-PA head David Samson (who would have raked in monster fees from his PA clients at his law firm), then it's no wonder that the Feds have been so downright apathetic about nailing Christie on Bridge(t)-Gate!

Kathleen 07-08-2015 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1189043)

If it can be legally designated as fraud, AND as a favor to then-PA head David Samson (who would have raked in monster fees from his PA clients at his law firm), then it's no wonder that the Feds have been so downright apathetic about nailing Christie on Bridge(t)-Gate!

I can only hope they nail him on this. Also this article ran in the NYT today - once again pointing out how Christie killed the tunnel project - and kept mucho money from the Port Authority.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/08/ar...ies-below&_r=0


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