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rolo_tomachi 06-30-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa71 (Post 1143549)
Those are questions to Matt. He has not replied to those questions.


Sorry, I think twitter seems a disaster.

Ruggy 06-30-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1143551)
Sorry, I think twitter seems a disaster.

I think you seem a disaster.

NicoRourke 06-30-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruggy (Post 1143554)
I think you seem a disaster.

I think I like this post!

We have a JBJ translator thread, we should have one for Rolo.

DestinationJovi 06-30-2013 10:26 PM

Question: If the band was planning to release another box set in 2014 for their 30 year anniversary, would Richie have to agree on that? Does he hold more cards than just the refusal to tour until whatever is worked out? Or is that only up to Jon since he's the one signed with the label. Anyone know?

Javier 06-30-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JON4EVA (Post 1143533)
That seems to be the one thing everyone agrees on!

I don't know much about the woman but she does seem to be using Richie a lot to promote her stuff and make herself seem more important. She seems to be the Matt of Richie's organization. But come to think about it, her vagina must have superpowers, if a man of Richie's fame is getting completely pussy whipped it must be something special :)

rolo_tomachi 06-30-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoRourke (Post 1143562)
I think I like this post!

We have a JBJ translator thread, we should have one for Rolo.

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/...a7baf3-633.gif

Bounce7800 06-30-2013 11:28 PM

Looks like I missed myself some Richie fun during my weekend off. Shame it seems he walked off the tour for some argument or issue with Jon and chose to let his fans see shows without him. Disappointed. But hopefully he will get his shit together and get back with the band eventually and this will go down as (another) blip. But that Nikki Lund is really not a good influence on him and his decision making.

And will someone just slap the man and tell him he looks like a total helmet? Jesus he looks like my nan. The cool has been sucked out of him.

NicoRourke 07-01-2013 12:09 AM

I Gotta admit Rolo, it was a funny reply!

I agree on the look Bounce7800. People have said he was looking more and more like an old woman. And unfortunately somehow it's true :-(

Kathleen 07-01-2013 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1143570)
I don't know much about the woman but she does seem to be using Richie a lot to promote her stuff and make herself seem more important. She seems to be the Matt of Richie's organization. But come to think about it, her vagina must have superpowers, if a man of Richie's fame is getting completely pussy whipped it must be something special :)

Or maybe he isn't getting any, anywhere else. That seems kind of odd in Richie's case considering his reputation but it's always possible.

Javier 07-01-2013 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1143622)
Or maybe he isn't getting any, anywhere else. That seems kind of odd in Richie's case considering his reputation but it's always possible.

NO! No no no no no NO!! I could make my piece with believing that Richie doesn't give a shit, or that he isn't half the guitar player he used to be, that he might be a junkie. But that the King of Swing, the legend isn't capable of getting any other poonany besides Miss Lund's I just refuse to believe! I'd rather believe that her vagina has an inner vagina that has a mouth with a very capable and agile tongue.... :(

bonjovi821 07-01-2013 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Highlander2010 (Post 1143483)
I think everyone is wrong and that the reason Richie left is because Richie said to Tico that his baby rock star clothing sucked and Tico beat the crap out of him, Richie then ran and told the teacher (Jon) who said grow a pair and stop wearing female clothing and he left a multi million dollar world tour to go and sulk, it's pretty obvious really.. :D

I disagree. When Tico beats someone up, he doesn't allow them to live to tell.

Highlander2010 07-01-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi821 (Post 1143641)
I disagree. When Tico beats someone up, he doesn't allow them to live to tell.

That would normally be true but the conspiracy was that Tico appreciated Richie's collagen work as "Art" and didn't want to ruin it too bad so he went easy on him! :D

StoneDeaf 07-01-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BJ?YesPlease (Post 1143466)
What a complete penis you've just made yourself look.

Show me evidence of it being about money and I'll take it back. Otherwise, you've just made up your own scenario.

Wow. And you really think that you made yourself to look any better?

StoneDeaf 07-01-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoRourke (Post 1143562)

We have a JBJ translator thread, we should have one for Rolo.

You know, this is really starting to look like backstage. "Only asskissing allowed." Someone has different opinion than you, it is allowed and often considered as a good thing. Deal with it.

Solid Sambora 07-01-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StoneDeaf (Post 1143662)
You know, this is really starting to look like backstage. "Only asskissing allowed." Someone has different opinion than you, it is allowed and often considered as a good thing. Deal with it.

I don't think anyone told him he couldn't have a different opinion (maybe they did, but show me where...)
What people were becoming frustrated at was the predictable posts that half the time had no relevancy nor made sense, and that quite often were posts where HE told others that their opinion was wrong.

Good to see he isn't the only predictable one playing to type though...

afk 07-01-2013 11:22 AM

That woman is fishy...

DevilsSon 07-01-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by afk (Post 1143670)
That woman is fishy...

And how exactly is that woman fishy?

God, what the hell is wrong with some people here?!?

Ruggy 07-01-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by StoneDeaf (Post 1143662)
You know, this is really starting to look like backstage. "Only asskissing allowed." Someone has different opinion than you, it is allowed and often considered as a good thing. Deal with it.

It's nothing to do with asskissing or being allowed an opinion. It's when it is the same thing, all the time, in every topic, regardless of what is being discussed. Tiresome isn't the word. I'm as gutted as anybody that Sambora isn't there, but I won't force it down peoples' throats with you tube links, photoshops and nonsense in conert venue topics, or other topics.

BJ?YesPlease 07-01-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon (Post 1143671)
And how exactly is that woman fishy?

God, what the hell is wrong with some people here?!?

I agree! We don't know (oooh, that's familiar) ... that Nikki has had anything to do with this, or that she's involved in any way at all.
Richie has chosen to do something with his time. Why don't we all just wish him well, and good luck until he returns.
What a miserable bunch of shit-stirrers! (Not all of you ... some of you sexually lust after).

BJ?YesPlease 07-01-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StoneDeaf (Post 1143660)
Wow. And you really think that you made yourself to look any better?

I was a penis to begin with....

KeepTheFaith2211 07-01-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BJ?YesPlease (Post 1143702)
(Not all of you ... some of you sexually lust after).

I wouldn't go that far but there was a picture of her yesterday in article where she looked pretty decent.

liljovi93 07-01-2013 01:25 PM

I actually do think that Nikki has an influence.

Well, maybe influence is the wrong word but in the interviews Richie has done on Bon Jovi in the past week, she has made a comment whilst he is doing the interview or is acting up in the back.

Can't say I'm a fan of her.

RonJovi 07-01-2013 02:30 PM

Don't get the hate for Nikki, what's she done?

Good looking woman by the way.

Gabriel Shoes 07-01-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1143729)
Don't get the hate for Nikki, what's she done?

Good looking woman by the way.

Dude, she's hot!

RonJovi 07-01-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel Shoes (Post 1143731)
Dude, she's hot!

Yeah, wanted to say that but was afraid I'd be lynched given the general dislike of her.

If I was Richie and it was a choice between looking at Jon's ass every night or dicking Nikki Lund then I'd have done the same as Richie.

Jonty 07-01-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1143717)
I actually do think that Nikki has an influence.

Well, maybe influence is the wrong word but in the interviews Richie has done on Bon Jovi in the past week, she has made a comment whilst he is doing the interview or is acting up in the back.

Can't say I'm a fan of her.

what interviews?!

jessycardy 07-01-2013 03:18 PM

Hey, everybody, I'm back... I was gone for a few days for the show in Milan. Took me a while to catch up with the thread, but I made it!
I gotta tell you, this was painful. The new chapter to this epic cluster**** happened right while we were losing our heads over waiting lines just a few hours before the show in Milan started. Watching the RumorFix video on my friend's iPhone was quite the task, given the crappy audio.
I'm home and I finally got to understand everything that he said.

We now know that Richie's personal problem somehow is related to the band. It was quite obvious already, but now it's official.
Also, just as I thought, we know that Richie's intention to come back for the Hyde Park show (wasn't it July 5th, by the way?) was made-up bullshit, he says it's untrue.
We know that right now he's in Europe with his daughter and ex-wife and will be for a while.
He also seems to be wanting to return sometime during this tour. I think after summer could be a reasonable time.
He says he will be back, he seems pretty definite about it. I believe his consequent tweet where he says nothing is happening at the moment and those were just his hopes should be read as a way to set the record straight for those who were already throwing out big headlines about Richie coming back in September.

I do think Nikki cutting in during his interview speaks volumes and that "we" shouldn't be a word she uses when talking about Bon Jovi, or actually she shouldn't be talking about Bon Jovi at all. What the ****?!?

It's weird seeing him so passionate about this fashion thing, it's unsettling even. And not because I expect him to stay at home staring at the ceiling, I do get it that he's gotta keep himself busy and that there's nothing wrong with that (we ruled out he's not on tour with Bon Jovi for reasons that are not health-related or such a long time ago already), but yeah, maybe a couple more guitar pictures and a couple less fashionable ones would have been less of a shock, if you know what I mean.

As for Richie's looks. Wow... He looks fine to me. I could be blind or not be an expert, but I don't see all these obvious symptoms that he's this big cocaine addict. I mean, that escalated quickly, from the bottle to the white stuff.

linnea.cfc32_jovibandana 07-01-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1143740)
but I don't see all these obvious symptoms that he's this big cocaine addict. I mean, that escalated quickly, from the bottle to the white stuff.

And the last time I checked, a big sign of cocaine abuse is usually losing weight, not looking more bloated than before (which someone on here said he did) ... or am I wrong?

Stranger11 07-01-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa71 (Post 1143546)
No, he was asked about 2014 but has not responded yet. He did respond to a question if the shows in Australia were the last shows on the tour and he said that was the plan.

Matilde. ‏@hugefanofBJ
@MatthewBongiovi Hey Matt, will this tour end with the shows in Australia or? :)

Matthew Bongiovi ‏@MatthewBongiovi
@hugefanofBJ that's the plan


Would this be the first time with no shows in Japan or the rest of Asia?

Slakk 07-01-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1143717)
I actually do think that Nikki has an influence.

Well, maybe influence is the wrong word but in the interviews Richie has done on Bon Jovi in the past week, she has made a comment whilst he is doing the interview or is acting up in the back.

Can't say I'm a fan of her.

I am tired of his line "I feel sorry for the fans" if you really felts sorry for the fans you would be fulfilling your obligation and not running around making clothes no one will wear, vacationing with your daughter and feeling ****ing great.

He looks to be on something to me.

AnnieKTF 07-01-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Slakk (Post 1143775)
I am tired of his line "I feel sorry for the fans" if you really felts sorry for the fans you would be fulfilling your obligation.

This.

I can understand him being sick of the band, wanting to spend time with his daughter, wanting to be the next Karl Lagerfeld or whatever the reason is. But I can't understand him bailing in the middle of the tour. If you love your fans, show up for them. He should have bailed before or after the tour if things were so bad for him in the band. We still don't know what it is, but it doesn't matter.

I was really sad (depressed even) when we first found out he wouldn't be performing, and I miss him at shows, I really do; but now I've almost stopped caring. Would I love to see him on that stage again? Hell yes. Will I cry about it until that happens? Not anymore, no. I hope the truth comes out eventually, but the way things are looking right now, he doesn't want to be there... There's nothing we can do to change that.

BJ?YesPlease 07-01-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1143740)
Hey, everybody, I'm back... I was gone for a few days for the show in Milan. Took me a while to catch up with the thread, but I made it!
I gotta tell you, this was painful. The new chapter to this epic cluster**** happened right while we were losing our heads over waiting lines just a few hours before the show in Milan started. Watching the RumorFix video on my friend's iPhone was quite the task, given the crappy audio.
I'm home and I finally got to understand everything that he said.

We now know that Richie's personal problem somehow is related to the band. It was quite obvious already, but now it's official.
Also, just as I thought, we know that Richie's intention to come back for the Hyde Park show (wasn't it July 5th, by the way?) was made-up bullshit, he says it's untrue.
We know that right now he's in Europe with his daughter and ex-wife and will be for a while.
He also seems to be wanting to return sometime during this tour. I think after summer could be a reasonable time.
He says he will be back, he seems pretty definite about it. I believe his consequent tweet where he says nothing is happening at the moment and those were just his hopes should be read as a way to set the record straight for those who were already throwing out big headlines about Richie coming back in September.

I do think Nikki cutting in during his interview speaks volumes and that "we" shouldn't be a word she uses when talking about Bon Jovi, or actually she shouldn't be talking about Bon Jovi at all. What the ****?!?

It's weird seeing him so passionate about this fashion thing, it's unsettling even. And not because I expect him to stay at home staring at the ceiling, I do get it that he's gotta keep himself busy and that there's nothing wrong with that (we ruled out he's not on tour with Bon Jovi for reasons that are not health-related or such a long time ago already), but yeah, maybe a couple more guitar pictures and a couple less fashionable ones would have been less of a shock, if you know what I mean.

As for Richie's looks. Wow... He looks fine to me. I could be blind or not be an expert, but I don't see all these obvious symptoms that he's this big cocaine addict. I mean, that escalated quickly, from the bottle to the white stuff.

Jessy's back! Bringing the sensible view! :)

BJ?YesPlease 07-01-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieKTF (Post 1143778)
He should have bailed before or after the tour if things were so bad for him in the band.

Others have said the same thing and I just don't get it. Why is it better to bail before the tour?

If he was torn (in a hypothetical world I'm creating) and thought "I'll give it a go and try to work it out" then surely he deserves respect for trying?
If he put the fans before his own happiness to even put the effort in, if it wasn't what he wanted?
Again, it's hypothetical. But I just don't get how one thing is better than the other in terms of when to bail right and wrongs....

PatriciaSambora 07-01-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Slakk (Post 1143775)
I am tired of his line "I feel sorry for the fans" if you really felts sorry for the fans you would be fulfilling your obligation and not running around making clothes no one will wear, vacationing with your daughter and feeling ****ing great.

He looks to be on something to me.

Agree with you 100% I'm tired of he's saying I feel bad for the fans..

DestinationJovi 07-01-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BJ?YesPlease (Post 1143780)
Others have said the same thing and I just don't get it. Why is it better to bail before the tour?

If he was torn (in a hypothetical world I'm creating) and thought "I'll give it a go and try to work it out" then surely he deserves respect for trying?
If he put the fans before his own happiness to even put the effort in, if it wasn't what he wanted?
Again, it's hypothetical. But I just don't get how one thing is better than the other in terms of when to bail right and wrongs....

Because he was a no show. People bought a ticket to see the whole band. If you purchase a happy meal, you expect to get all it includes. Handing you a burger and drink and saying sorry we are out of fries after you paid doesn't cut it. If you knew ahead of time they were out of fries you would have ordered differently and not expected fries in your bag.

DestinationJovi 07-01-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriciaSambora (Post 1143782)
Agree with you 100% I'm tired of he's saying I feel bad for the fans..

Me too. Sounds like his way of saying he blames Jon for not caving on whatever the dispute is.

jessycardy 07-01-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stranger11 (Post 1143763)
Would this be the first time with no shows in Japan or the rest of Asia?

It would be a big pain for me to find it, but I'm pretty sure there was a tweet from Matt from a while ago where he said Japan dates will eventually be announced. That doesn't change the fact the Australia dates could finish the tour, as the Japan dates would likely happen in November, before the Australia ones. The tour should finish just in time for the Christmas holidays.


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Originally Posted by BJ?YesPlease (Post 1143780)
Others have said the same thing and I just don't get it. Why is it better to bail before the tour?

If he was torn (in a hypothetical world I'm creating) and thought "I'll give it a go and try to work it out" then surely he deserves respect for trying?
If he put the fans before his own happiness to even put the effort in, if it wasn't what he wanted?
Again, it's hypothetical. But I just don't get how one thing is better than the other in terms of when to bail right and wrongs....

I believe the reason is because people kinda feel like their hot crush stood up their big, third-base date without a valid explanation and then they found out the crush was out and about doing their thing and looking carefree.
That's honestly what I don't get. I'm pretty sure he DOES care (who wouldn't really?!?) and I imagine he's also quite upset about this whole thing (letting down the fans, the band, the gutter press talking trash, his reputation, etc.), no matter how tired he might be of the band or how much he wants to spend time with his daughter. He's gotta know he looks bad from an outside, surely distorted and incomplete perspective. He probably decided he doesn't care about how bad he looks and just wants to be happy and/or needs this matter, whatever it is, to be resolved at all costs.

PatriciaSambora 07-01-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieKTF (Post 1143778)

I was really sad (depressed even) when we first found out he wouldn't be performing, and I miss him at shows, I really do; but now I've almost stopped caring. Would I love to see him on that stage again? Hell yes. Will I cry about it until that happens? Not anymore, no. I hope the truth comes out eventually, but the way things are looking right now, he doesn't want to be there... There's nothing we can do to change that.

I was crying all day the day we found out he wouldnt be on tour and I thought about not going to their show in madrid.. Now I'm really happy I've been there with Jon, David and Tico who show me they're truly professionals.. Now I really don't care if Richie is coming back in September or in October.. And I'm the first one i want to see him again onstage but if he doesn't care.. I don't care anymore

BJ?YesPlease 07-01-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1143783)
Because he was a no show. People bought a ticket to see the whole band. If you purchase a happy meal, you expect to get all it includes. Handing you a burger and drink and saying sorry we are out of fries after you paid doesn't cut it. If you knew ahead of time they were out of fries you would have ordered differently and not expected fries in your bag.

Put yourself in his shoes.

You have a big issue - something that in 30 years is the biggest issue in your "family".

You consider it big enough to walk away from.

Do you stay?

It's utterly selfish to think a fan that's paid for a ticket (even if it's hotels and travel too) should be more important than making yourself happy over the best part of a year! He's spent his life neglecting family and friends for the sake of a rock n roll band. Personally, I think he's given more than enough over three decades to keep any fan happy.

I know what it's like as a small-fry guitarist playing 3 shows a week. I've just got home and haven't seen my girlfriend for days. That's DAYS. Not weeks or months.

Cut the guy some slack, stop putting your one night of musical enjoyment first, and think of the bigger picture.

PatriciaSambora 07-01-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1143784)
Me too. Sounds like his way of saying he blames Jon for not caving on whatever the dispute is.

Yeah and sorry but in my opinion Jon's being more professional than Richie right now... Jon and the rest of the guys are doing their job and maybe they have personal issues too but they don't quit a world tour.. Richie is out of the tour because he can Lol meanwhile he's doing his life not like the last time he was in rehab, so.. He could be doing his job not reasons for me to be doing everything but not what fans have paid for


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