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Jay Jay 05-20-2014 12:56 PM

Please let the 2nd disc be of the remainder of the songs recorded as planned originally.

sirpercy 05-20-2014 12:59 PM

It's on Amazon.de as well
New Jersey (Limited Super Deluxe Edition-Original... New Jersey (Limited Super Deluxe Edition-Original...
release date: 27.06!

Ricky Skywalker 05-20-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOriginalJez (Post 1176674)
Well, there's a cheaper 2cd version on there as well which lists the first cd tracks if you zoom in on the photos - unsurprisingly the New Jersey tracklist unaltered.

Still, as you said, it's only the 1st cd track list - the 2nd one is coverded by the band's photo and still a mystery ;) And I have a feeling we would get what we dream of :)

mat 05-20-2014 02:08 PM

The third disk is a DVD. Access All Areas I presume.

Jay Jay 05-20-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mat (Post 1176689)
The third disk is a DVD. Access All Areas I presume.

Fingers crossed for Hammersmith Odeon concert!

Rdkopper 05-20-2014 02:42 PM

i haven't been this pumped up for a release since.... New Jersey.

I can not freaking wait to see the track listing.

So far so good. This is exactly what we all predicted.

Hopefully we'll get a second box set soon. I was thinking maybe we'd get Sex Sells. Nah. But that would be cool.

Ricky Skywalker 05-20-2014 02:47 PM

Well, IF we'd really get all those NJ demos now, it'd possible that in near future we'd get another similar releases with SWW demos and, as Rdkopper said, Sex Sells. That's what The Rolling Stones are doing now - for example the album "Some Girls" was re-realeased 2 years ago with 12 "new" songs on 2nd CD :)

Funny thing is that Richie's "split for a while", which means that the band isn't recording any new material, may give us the chance to get the best BJ releases for decades... :D

Alphavictim 05-20-2014 02:50 PM

The Stones tweaked the unfinished demos, though... even brought back Mick Taylor to do so. Bon Jovi should finish up some of these demos as well, but given the state of Jon's voice and the situation with Richie, I doubt it.

I just hope disk 2 isn't just demo versions of the album tracks. That'd suck big time.

Rdkopper 05-20-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1176698)
I just hope disk 2 isn't just demo versions of the album tracks. That'd suck big time.

I would be so pissed if that was the case. I wouldn't even buy it.

If the DVD is AAA lets hope for lots of unreleased footage.

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 03:25 PM

http://www.musictap.net/2014/05/13/b...ersey-in-july/


Pretty cool! However, I think the DVD is most likely AAA. Considering it was already released on DVD with the special editions in japan it seems likely thats what the dvd is. I highly doubt its hammersmith...however if it is....good lord almighty!!!! I wouldn't leave my house for two weeks! lol

Rdkopper 05-20-2014 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pstmatt (Post 1176703)
http://www.musictap.net/2014/05/13/b...ersey-in-july/


Pretty cool! However, I think the DVD is most likely AAA. Considering it was already released on DVD with the special editions in japan it seems likely thats what the dvd is. I highly doubt its hammersmith...however if it is....good lord almighty!!!! I wouldn't leave my house for two weeks! lol

Oh shoot! I totally forgot that I had AAA on the Special Edition Box (I got the Chinese one on e-bay for 40 bucks).... I don't even watch DVDs anymore. I just stream everything and watch it on my PC now but that's just me. If there is extra footage, I'll consider purchasing the super deluxe version.

I have a feeling that we are going to be disappointed. I guess based on past experiences. I just hope that photo from Hammersmith isn't being used for AAA and is being used because songs from that show are being included.

IML88 05-20-2014 04:12 PM

I think its a fairly safe bet the DVD is AAA. I can't picture it being anything else. The question is what is on the 2nd CD.

I'd imagine its something readily available from the archive that required minimal work and cost attached to it. Potentially demo's that only had a very limited release at the time e.g Love Is War. Or maybe unreleased live cuts/acoustic versions.

By the look of pack shots above, it doesn't look very special. When you look at the time and effort that goes into the Springsteen box sets, you have to question why the same can't be done for this band. You could very easily put a comprehensive box set, akin to the quality of a BTR box or Darkness box for Slippery and or New Jersey. That would be special.

Fingers crossed disc 2 is something half decent.

Rdkopper 05-20-2014 04:31 PM

BON JOVI: New Jersey [CD, digital]1. Lay Your Hands On Me2. Bad Medicine3. Born To Be My Baby4. Living In Sin5. Blood On Blood6. Homebound Train7. Wild Is The Wind8. Ride Cowboy Ride9. Stick To Your Guns10. I’ll Be There For You11. 99 In The Shade12. Love For Sale

BON JOVI: New Jersey (Deluxe Edition) [2CD, digital]DISC 1: NEW JERSEY (original album, remastered) + bonus tracks1. Lay Your Hands On Me2. Bad Medicine3. Born To Be My Baby4. Living In Sin5. Blood On Blood6. Homebound Train7. Wild Is The Wind8. Ride Cowboy Ride9. Stick To Your Guns10. I’ll Be There For You11. 99 In The Shade12. Love For SaleBonus Tracks:13. The Boys Are Back In Town (Cover of the Thin Lizzy classic; previously released on Stairway To Heaven/Highway To Hell compilation; released in the U.K. as a 12” single B-side)14. Love Is War (B-side from Living In Sin single)15. Born To Be My Baby (Acoustic Version; previously released as a B-side in Japan)

DISC 2: The ‘SONS OF BEACHES’ Demos(** All tracks on DISC 2 are previously unreleased)1. Homebound Train2. Judgment Day3. Full Moon High4. Growin’ Up The Hard Way5. Let’s Make It Baby6. Love Hurts7. Backdoor To Heaven8. Now And Forever9. Wild Is The Wind10. Stick To Your Guns11. House Of Fire12. Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore?13. Diamond Ring

BON JOVI: New Jersey (Super Deluxe Edition) [boxed 2CD/DVD]DISC 1: NEW JERSEY (original album, remastered) + bonus tracksDISC 2: The ‘SONS OF BEACHES’ Demos (PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED)DISC 3 (DVD):

1. ‘ACCESS ALL AREAS: A ROCK & ROLL ODYSSEY’Directed by Wayne Isham.The original 1990 88-minute documentary of the band’s epic 16-month world tour in support of the NEW JERSEY album; includes rare backstage, on-the-road, and live concert footage.First time released in the U.S. on DVD format

2. MUSIC VIDEOS From the NEW JERSEY albumAll directed by Wayne Isham-- Bad Medicine (1st Version)-- Born To Be My Baby-- I’ll Be There For You-- Lay Your Hands On Me-- Living In Sin-- Blood On Blood-- Bad Medicine (2nd Version)

Original audio produced by Bruce Fairbairn; engineered and mixed by Bob Rock

Source:
http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+R...e/9506436.html

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 04:35 PM

wait? what? where did u find this????

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 04:39 PM

oh, sorry missed your link...this is awesome!!!! the only track missing is 'Rosie"...would have been cool but so what...i cant wait!!!

Rdkopper 05-20-2014 04:40 PM

Yep. Pretty much official. It's all over now.

Maybe Cadillac Man will be a hidden track.

Rdkopper 05-20-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pstmatt (Post 1176715)
oh, sorry missed your link...this is awesome!!!! the only track missing is 'Rosie"...would have been cool but so what...i cant wait!!!

House A Fire... How cool is that. I never expected that.

In America is missing. Rosie is missing because Richie did it, probably.

A even a new track. Full Moon High

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 04:44 PM

I think its cool. I always thought the audio quality of Love Is War was pretty bad, so remastered version will be cool. I wonder if lets make it baby is the same version from the TD deluxe? or the X rated demo?

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 04:47 PM

I believe Full moon High was titled 'River Of Love" on all the nj bootlegs over the years.. Not the richie song, but a bon jovi song. Im fairly certain Full Moon high is river of love....and yeah bet they left off rosie since richie already released a proper version.

bonjovi90 05-20-2014 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1176716)
Yep. Pretty much official. It's all over now.

Maybe Cadillac Man will be a hidden track.

I don't see much reason to complain here. Even House of Fire seems to be on it.
Full Moon High probably is what's currently circulated as River of Love.

I once read somewhere that the film studio owns the rights on the song (and probably subsequently on the recording) of Cadillac Man, so the band may not even be able to release it if they wanted to.

bonjovi90 05-20-2014 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pstmatt (Post 1176718)
I think its cool. I always thought the audio quality of Love Is War was pretty bad, so remastered version will be cool. I wonder if lets make it baby is the same version from the TD deluxe? or the X rated demo?

Love Is War was released as some B-side as well, so there already was a good version around:

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 04:55 PM

I agree. It seems they may have gotten right on with this release. I was actually wondering if this was gonna be like the special editions where they split up all the demos and made ya buy 10 different version to get them all! lol glad to see its not!

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 04:57 PM

I know Love is war was released. What I mean is that I always found the officially released version from the living in sin single to have poor audio quality and it could use a remastering....same goes for that acoustic version of BTBMB.

belgium_BON_JOVI_fan 05-20-2014 05:27 PM

i wonder if the normal album will have extra things on them like they did with sww, slightly extended songs...

KTF,

Nick

rolo_tomachi 05-20-2014 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1176713)
BON JOVI: New Jersey [CD, digital]1. Lay Your Hands On Me2. Bad Medicine3. Born To Be My Baby4. Living In Sin5. Blood On Blood6. Homebound Train7. Wild Is The Wind8. Ride Cowboy Ride9. Stick To Your Guns10. I’ll Be There For You11. 99 In The Shade12. Love For Sale

BON JOVI: New Jersey (Deluxe Edition) [2CD, digital]DISC 1: NEW JERSEY (original album, remastered) + bonus tracks1. Lay Your Hands On Me2. Bad Medicine3. Born To Be My Baby4. Living In Sin5. Blood On Blood6. Homebound Train7. Wild Is The Wind8. Ride Cowboy Ride9. Stick To Your Guns10. I’ll Be There For You11. 99 In The Shade12. Love For SaleBonus Tracks:13. The Boys Are Back In Town (Cover of the Thin Lizzy classic; previously released on Stairway To Heaven/Highway To Hell compilation; released in the U.K. as a 12” single B-side)14. Love Is War (B-side from Living In Sin single)15. Born To Be My Baby (Acoustic Version; previously released as a B-side in Japan)

DISC 2: The ‘SONS OF BEACHES’ Demos(** All tracks on DISC 2 are previously unreleased)1. Homebound Train2. Judgment Day3. Full Moon High4. Growin’ Up The Hard Way5. Let’s Make It Baby6. Love Hurts7. Backdoor To Heaven8. Now And Forever9. Wild Is The Wind10. Stick To Your Guns11. House Of Fire12. Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore?13. Diamond Ring

BON JOVI: New Jersey (Super Deluxe Edition) [boxed 2CD/DVD]DISC 1: NEW JERSEY (original album, remastered) + bonus tracksDISC 2: The ‘SONS OF BEACHES’ Demos (PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED)DISC 3 (DVD):

1. ‘ACCESS ALL AREAS: A ROCK & ROLL ODYSSEY’Directed by Wayne Isham.The original 1990 88-minute documentary of the band’s epic 16-month world tour in support of the NEW JERSEY album; includes rare backstage, on-the-road, and live concert footage.First time released in the U.S. on DVD format

2. MUSIC VIDEOS From the NEW JERSEY albumAll directed by Wayne Isham-- Bad Medicine (1st Version)-- Born To Be My Baby-- I’ll Be There For You-- Lay Your Hands On Me-- Living In Sin-- Blood On Blood-- Bad Medicine (2nd Version)

Original audio produced by Bruce Fairbairn; engineered and mixed by Bob Rock

Source:
http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+R...e/9506436.html

Where the hell is Cadillac Man? stupid Obie , I hate you.

Simon 05-20-2014 05:32 PM

Would they for once actually be doing something right?!? Looks like a dream come true.

I couldn't care less about "Cadillac Man". Never understood the excitement.

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 05:35 PM

Considering the rift between BJ and RS it really makes you think why no Rosie??? I mean House Of Fire and Does anybody really fall in love were released by other artists and they're being included!

rolo_tomachi 05-20-2014 05:58 PM

Homebound Train demo? Wild is the Wind demo? Stick to your Guns demo?

These songs should have occupied this place.

In America

Rosie

We All Sleep Alone


Obie said he was working on 2 projects. I hope that the second is a box set or one album with 3 discs, and include Cadillac Man, Nothing (from HAND) and some unreleased songs from Sex Sells, WAN and SWW outtakes.

Rdkopper 05-20-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1176730)
missing these songs.

In America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC90p_9oO2M

Rosie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZXzMbXU7M8

We All Sleep Alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PNZfPDbvC4

Cadillac Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qI4FQsMMbA

Obie said he was working on 2 projects. I hope that the second is a box set or one album with 3 discs, and include Cadillac Man, Nothing (from HAND) and some unreleased songs from Sex Sells, WAN and SWW outtakes.

Yes! I was thinking the same thing and hope you're right. I pray you're right.

As someone pointed out, Cadillac Man wasn't really written for NJ, nor was it supposed to be on Sons Of Beaches. So unless it's a hidden track or something, Obie actually got it right. This is basically the album as it's intended initial release.

I like that they are adding AAA with the NJ videos. It really just completes the package.

BTY, I agree with the above post that Cadillac Man is a little overrated but it's my goal to get everything in the best possible quality, especially from that time period.

Rdkopper 05-20-2014 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pstmatt (Post 1176728)
Considering the rift between BJ and RS it really makes you think why no Rosie??? I mean House Of Fire and Does anybody really fall in love were released by other artists and they're being included!

That's a little different. Richie is in the band and although not the lead singer, it was officially released by him on an album. But I hear you.

Rdkopper 05-20-2014 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1176720)
I don't see much reason to complain here. Even House of Fire seems to be on it.
Full Moon High probably is what's currently circulated as River of Love.

I once read somewhere that the film studio owns the rights on the song (and probably subsequently on the recording) of Cadillac Man, so the band may not even be able to release it if they wanted to.

HAHA . Not complaining at all.

When I said "it's all over" I meant all over the internet. It's an official track listing because it's all over the internet.

Trust me. I'm probably the most excited person here right now!

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 06:28 PM

I am very excited! Plus demo version of Homebound Train, Guns, Wind, and the original version of Diamond Ring!!!!! I love stuff like that!

Supersonic 05-20-2014 06:40 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon (Post 1176726)
Would they for once actually be doing something right?!? Looks like a dream come true.

It merely looks like prediction come true. If this is really what's going to be on there, then how's this doing it right? Two of the three discs in the superdeluxeduper edition contain stuff the superdeluxeduper collector already has, and, with youTube around, the DVD is completely pointless.

It's as if they carefully looked what had already been leaked, just so no one would get anything they didn't have yet. Everything's already out there, albeit some of it probably in inferior quality. That said, considering how sterile the demo of Prayer suddenly sounded, it wouldn't surprise me if Obie mixed the life out of these demo's as well so they'd sound crystal clear, yet rather dead. The idea of having the full Sons of Beaches sessions sounds great, but it looks like it'll always be just that considering how half of it is missing.

I really see no point in this release, nor why anyone should get extremely excited about it, and I'd like to think I'm the target market. They're very much aware everyone wants decent live recordings from back then. There's 88 official minutes for Access All Areas. What about the outtakes? Would it really have hurt to release a properly mixed live recording from those days? What's their excuse this time?

Unless it's reasonably priced I'll give this one another pass.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

nikos greece 05-20-2014 06:50 PM

i agree, a concert from tha era would be really great!! there are very few decent bootlegs from that era and hammersmith odeon, giants stadium, wembley 89 are all highly anticipated by the fan base. they could easily edit them and release a proper live dvd...unfortunatelly it probably will never happen but imo a good live band should have a proper dvd release from its era.
ps. the video collection always seems pointless to me, while a concert would bbe a highlight for sure

belgium_BON_JOVI_fan 05-20-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1176741)

Unless it's reasonably priced I'll give this one another pass.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

34.99 at bol.com :-p

KTF,

Nick

Bounce7800 05-20-2014 07:25 PM

It's not too bad if it was reasonably priced and they did the same sort of thing with other albums.

But as already said on here, Discs 1 and 3 are redundant and we have most of disc 2 anyway in fairly decent form, hopefully the quality would make the songs stand out some more. It's a start and if they carried it on with other albums could have us a really decent lot of demos in decent quality, but they really haven't dug that deep. As good as AAA is, everyone who would want to see it already has. Fair play if they get it on blu ray, but it needs a lot

Be nice if they made more play of the "Sons Of Beaches" title with different artwork and the like rather than just the NJ album with a little sticker on it.

rolo_tomachi 05-20-2014 07:53 PM

Why Love is War in Disc 1?
Perhaps Disc 2 does not sound good, like Living on a Prayer (Demo version) hidden in the Box set 100 millions...

Living on a Prayer Demo (box set)


different shots:

Love is War (b-side) GREAT MIX

Love Is War (Demo) POOR MIX


Homebound Train (Demo) POOR MIX

Growing Up The Hard Way (Demo) POOR MIX

I think it will not sound good the disc 2.

Ricky Skywalker 05-20-2014 08:08 PM

Why the hell just when they confirmed that we would get what we wanted, most of you started to complain...? ;)

rolo_tomachi 05-20-2014 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Skywalker (Post 1176752)
Why the hell just when they confirmed that we would get what we wanted, most of you started to complain...? ;)

I'm not complaining, I just don't trust Obie, and likely not be as great as it looks.

If these songs have great sound as We Rule The Night and Out Of Bounds, successfully fulfilled one of my dreams.

Pstmatt 05-20-2014 08:17 PM

I am super excited! Songs that I got on a bootleg CD in 1996 at a record show and have been listening to for 18 years are being released! it's awesome! I kinda hope they do have "demo" feel to them! They should! They are afterall DEMOS! I cant wait!

Oh, and here's a link where its says "BJ launching 30th Anniv. Campaign" meaning more is coming...we know at least one more, maybe more!

http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwmusi...paign-20140520


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