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Litneg 10-10-2021 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1275848)
Fair points, yeah. I mean just because they've been in the studio it doesn't mean everything will see the light of day. 23 bed tracks were recorded for 2020 before Jon realized only handful of those songs made the final version.

I don't know if I see them doing a whole new marketing campaign for a full album but they'll absolutely put SOMETHING out to have a reason to tour. But they could also be saving Beautiful Drug or another single to promote the tour. Though what's left? Brothers in Arms, Blood in the Water, Beautiful Drug and Let it Rain. No way in hell would they put out Lower the Flag. As to the rumours of Luv Can getting a video shot, they could potentially use that song as a "new" single.

Doesn't make sense to call it the 2020 tour or whatever.

I don't see they releasing any of the "social songs" as a single by now... Jon himself said that some band mates had enough of this "social" stuff. That being said, Blood, Brothers, and Lower are out. I can picture Let It Rain, but it was never mentioned as a possible single. BD is what's left.

One year after, Jon shall and MUST have realised that Shine and Luv Can are great songs, specially the 1st one for the phonograph industry and the 2nd to bring back the fans. If I was him I'd bet my last buck for 2020 on these songs.

About the tour, they could do a pun like "2020 Moved On Tour". That'd be fun.

james_d 10-10-2021 09:34 PM

Tbf the Luv Can Tour might actually fit the vibe they're going for coming out of the pandemic. Who knows?

Denmad 10-10-2021 11:17 PM

Here we go!

CD 1 1980s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 DEEP CUTS THE KNIFE
02 CADILLAC MAN
03 WE ALL SLEEP ALONE
04 THAT'S THE STORY OF LOVE
05 HEART OF AMERICA
06 ROSIE
07 SO CLOSE
08 GAME OF THE HEART
09 FIGHTER FOR LOVE
10 LONELY IS THE NIGHT
11 TOO MUCH TOO SOON
12 THE PROMISE


CD2 1990s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 LIFE'S TOO SHORT FOR DAYS LIKE THESE
02 SOMETIMES IT'S A BITCH
03 SEX SELLS
04 SHADOW DANCING
05 THE SOLE TRUTH
06 GOOD AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH
07 WE ARE NOT LOVERS ANYMORE
08 EVEN BAD TIMES ARE GOOD TIMES
09 LET IT RAIN (DEMO)
10 SKIN DEEP
11 ONLY IN MY DREAMS
12 FORDBIDDEN LOVE


CD3 2000s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 NOTHING
02 RUMBLE IN THE HOUSE
03 ALONE
04 THE GHOST OF A GOOD THING
05 SECOND CHANCES
06 MONA LISA
07 JUST LIKE A PRINCESS
08 ANY OTHER DAY (ALTERNATIVE TAKE WITH EXTENDED SOLO)
09 CRYING
10 I'M ON MY WAY
11 THIS AIN'T LOVE
12 WHO SAYS YOU CAN'T GO HOME (WITH KEITH URBAN)


CD4 2010s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 TIMES LIKE THESE
02 RAGE OF ANGELS
03 STATE OF THE UNION
04 ELVIS IN VEGAS
05 SHINE (2012 VERSION)
06 LOVE TO FALL
07 SUMMER'S GONE
08 WHAT'S LEFT OF ME (DEMO)
09 ROOM AT THE END OF THE WORLD (DEMO)
10 NO APOLOGIES (DEMO)
11 TOUCH OF GRAY (DEMO)
12 A TEARDROP TO THE SEA (DEMO)


CD5 LIVE COVERS

01 HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE RAIN (JOHNSTOWN 1989)
02 TENTH AVENUE FREEZE-OUT (HORSENS 2011)
03 THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN (BERLIN 2000)
04 TURN THE PAGE (TORONTO 2010)
05 JOKER (YOKOHAMA 2003)
06 HEROES (TORONTO 2003)
07 EVE OF DESTRUCTION (WASHINGTON 2003)
08 BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER (MONTREAL 1994)
09 SEVEN DAYS (RED BANK 1990)
10 YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON (LONDON 1990)
11 I SHALL BE RELEASED (COPENHAGEN 1993)
12 DRIFT AWAY (1987)


BLURAY1 LIVE FROM HAMMERSMITH ODEON 1990

BLURAY2 LIVE FROM PARIS BERCY 1996

BLURAY3 LIVE FROM YOKOHAMA ARENA 2003

BLURAY4 LIVE FROM BOSTON 2005


I'm not asking for more :cool:

Captain_jovi 10-10-2021 11:31 PM

08 ANY OTHER DAY (ALTERNATIVE TAKE WITH EXTENDED SOLO)

What a very specific thing to ask for haha.

bonjovi90 10-10-2021 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denmad (Post 1275853)
Here we go!

CD 1 1980s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 DEEP CUTS THE KNIFE
02 CADILLAC MAN
03 WE ALL SLEEP ALONE
04 THAT'S THE STORY OF LOVE
05 HEART OF AMERICA
06 ROSIE
07 SO CLOSE
08 GAME OF THE HEART
09 FIGHTER FOR LOVE
10 LONELY IS THE NIGHT
11 TOO MUCH TOO SOON
12 THE PROMISE


CD2 1990s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 LIFE'S TOO SHORT FOR DAYS LIKE THESE
02 SOMETIMES IT'S A BITCH
03 SEX SELLS
04 SHADOW DANCING
05 THE SOLE TRUTH
06 GOOD AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH
07 WE ARE NOT LOVERS ANYMORE
08 EVEN BAD TIMES ARE GOOD TIMES
09 LET IT RAIN (DEMO)
10 SKIN DEEP
11 ONLY IN MY DREAMS
12 FORDBIDDEN LOVE


CD3 2000s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 NOTHING
02 RUMBLE IN THE HOUSE
03 ALONE
04 THE GHOST OF A GOOD THING
05 SECOND CHANCES
06 MONA LISA
07 JUST LIKE A PRINCESS
08 ANY OTHER DAY (ALTERNATIVE TAKE WITH EXTENDED SOLO)
09 CRYING
10 I'M ON MY WAY
11 THIS AIN'T LOVE
12 WHO SAYS YOU CAN'T GO HOME (WITH KEITH URBAN)


CD4 2010s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 TIMES LIKE THESE
02 RAGE OF ANGELS
03 STATE OF THE UNION
04 ELVIS IN VEGAS
05 SHINE (2012 VERSION)
06 LOVE TO FALL
07 SUMMER'S GONE
08 WHAT'S LEFT OF ME (DEMO)
09 ROOM AT THE END OF THE WORLD (DEMO)
10 NO APOLOGIES (DEMO)
11 TOUCH OF GRAY (DEMO)
12 A TEARDROP TO THE SEA (DEMO)


CD5 LIVE COVERS

01 HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE RAIN (JOHNSTOWN 1989)
02 TENTH AVENUE FREEZE-OUT (HORSENS 2011)
03 THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN (BERLIN 2000)
04 TURN THE PAGE (TORONTO 2010)
05 JOKER (YOKOHAMA 2003)
06 HEROES (TORONTO 2003)
07 EVE OF DESTRUCTION (WASHINGTON 2003)
08 BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER (MONTREAL 1994)
09 SEVEN DAYS (RED BANK 1990)
10 YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON (LONDON 1990)
11 I SHALL BE RELEASED (COPENHAGEN 1993)
12 DRIFT AWAY (1987)


BLURAY1 LIVE FROM HAMMERSMITH ODEON 1990

BLURAY2 LIVE FROM PARIS BERCY 1996

BLURAY3 LIVE FROM YOKOHAMA ARENA 2003

BLURAY4 LIVE FROM BOSTON 2005


I'm not asking for more :cool:

I'd sign up for that. However, I think that Rage of Angels was actually a much older song - from the 80's or 90's. So that one would have to switch CDs :mrgreen::mrgreen:

Litneg 10-11-2021 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denmad (Post 1275853)
Here we go!

CD 1 1980s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 DEEP CUTS THE KNIFE
02 CADILLAC MAN
03 WE ALL SLEEP ALONE
04 THAT'S THE STORY OF LOVE
05 HEART OF AMERICA
06 ROSIE
07 SO CLOSE
08 GAME OF THE HEART
09 FIGHTER FOR LOVE
10 LONELY IS THE NIGHT
11 TOO MUCH TOO SOON
12 THE PROMISE


CD2 1990s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 LIFE'S TOO SHORT FOR DAYS LIKE THESE
02 SOMETIMES IT'S A BITCH
03 SEX SELLS
04 SHADOW DANCING
05 THE SOLE TRUTH
06 GOOD AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH
07 WE ARE NOT LOVERS ANYMORE
08 EVEN BAD TIMES ARE GOOD TIMES
09 LET IT RAIN (DEMO)
10 SKIN DEEP
11 ONLY IN MY DREAMS
12 FORDBIDDEN LOVE


CD3 2000s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 NOTHING
02 RUMBLE IN THE HOUSE
03 ALONE
04 THE GHOST OF A GOOD THING
05 SECOND CHANCES
06 MONA LISA
07 JUST LIKE A PRINCESS
08 ANY OTHER DAY (ALTERNATIVE TAKE WITH EXTENDED SOLO)
09 CRYING
10 I'M ON MY WAY
11 THIS AIN'T LOVE
12 WHO SAYS YOU CAN'T GO HOME (WITH KEITH URBAN)


CD4 2010s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 TIMES LIKE THESE
02 RAGE OF ANGELS
03 STATE OF THE UNION
04 ELVIS IN VEGAS
05 SHINE (2012 VERSION)
06 LOVE TO FALL
07 SUMMER'S GONE
08 WHAT'S LEFT OF ME (DEMO)
09 ROOM AT THE END OF THE WORLD (DEMO)
10 NO APOLOGIES (DEMO)
11 TOUCH OF GRAY (DEMO)
12 A TEARDROP TO THE SEA (DEMO)


CD5 LIVE COVERS

01 HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE RAIN (JOHNSTOWN 1989)
02 TENTH AVENUE FREEZE-OUT (HORSENS 2011)
03 THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN (BERLIN 2000)
04 TURN THE PAGE (TORONTO 2010)
05 JOKER (YOKOHAMA 2003)
06 HEROES (TORONTO 2003)
07 EVE OF DESTRUCTION (WASHINGTON 2003)
08 BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER (MONTREAL 1994)
09 SEVEN DAYS (RED BANK 1990)
10 YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON (LONDON 1990)
11 I SHALL BE RELEASED (COPENHAGEN 1993)
12 DRIFT AWAY (1987)


BLURAY1 LIVE FROM HAMMERSMITH ODEON 1990

BLURAY2 LIVE FROM PARIS BERCY 1996

BLURAY3 LIVE FROM YOKOHAMA ARENA 2003

BLURAY4 LIVE FROM BOSTON 2005


I'm not asking for more :cool:

From where is Summer's Gone?

blazeofglory 10-11-2021 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1275858)
From where is Summer's Gone?


It’s a Beach Boys song (from 2012 I believe) co-written by Jon.


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BonJovi100 10-11-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denmad (Post 1275853)
Here we go!

CD5 LIVE COVERS

01 HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE RAIN (JOHNSTOWN 1989)
02 TENTH AVENUE FREEZE-OUT (HORSENS 2011)
03 THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN (BERLIN 2000)
04 TURN THE PAGE (TORONTO 2010)
05 JOKER (YOKOHAMA 2003)
06 HEROES (TORONTO 2003)
07 EVE OF DESTRUCTION (WASHINGTON 2003)
08 BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER (MONTREAL 1994)
09 SEVEN DAYS (RED BANK 1990)
10 YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON (LONDON 1990)
11 I SHALL BE RELEASED (COPENHAGEN 1993)
12 DRIFT AWAY (1987)

I'm not asking for more :cool:

Nice list, but I would make a few modifications ;)
Live CD is out and another CD with Demos is in

CD-5
All We Are (THINFS)
All In The Name Of Love (DA)
Chaising Amy* (Movie)
Halo (2020)
Have A Nice Day (HAND Demo)
Hurricane Butterfly (THINFS?)
It Only Take One To Say Goodbye* (Bounce)
Love is Just Another (KTF)
Nobody Heroes (CR/TD Demo)*
Notorious (SWW)
Revenge* (KTF Demo)
This Ain't a Drinking Song* (TD Demo)
Water Into Wine (KTF Demo)
Watched Her Walked Away (Bounce?)
Song For Petter Pan Movie

List of songs I'm looking forward to the most:
01.Sex Sells
02.Chaising Amy
03.Rage Of Angels
04.Crying
05.It Only Take One To Say Goodbye
06.Just Like A Princess
07.State Of Our Union
08.Watched Her Walked Away (Bounce?)
09.This Ain't Love This Is Life
10.Nothing
11.Nobody Heroes (CR/TD Demo)
12.We All Sleep Alone / Revenge* (KTF Demo)

+ It would be nice to see first version videoclip to "Welcome To Wherever You Are"

nikos greece 10-11-2021 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=Denmad;1275853]Here we go!

CD 1 1980s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 DEEP CUTS THE KNIFE
02 CADILLAC MAN
03 WE ALL SLEEP ALONE
04 THAT'S THE STORY OF LOVE
05 HEART OF AMERICA
06 ROSIE
07 SO CLOSE
08 GAME OF THE HEART
09 FIGHTER FOR LOVE
10 LONELY IS THE NIGHT
11 TOO MUCH TOO SOON
12 THE PROMISE


CD2 1990s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 LIFE'S TOO SHORT FOR DAYS LIKE THESE
02 SOMETIMES IT'S A BITCH
03 SEX SELLS
04 SHADOW DANCING
05 THE SOLE TRUTH
06 GOOD AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH
07 WE ARE NOT LOVERS ANYMORE
08 EVEN BAD TIMES ARE GOOD TIMES
09 LET IT RAIN (DEMO)
10 SKIN DEEP
11 ONLY IN MY DREAMS
12 FORDBIDDEN LOVE


CD3 2000s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 NOTHING
02 RUMBLE IN THE HOUSE
03 ALONE
04 THE GHOST OF A GOOD THING
05 SECOND CHANCES
06 MONA LISA
07 JUST LIKE A PRINCESS
08 ANY OTHER DAY (ALTERNATIVE TAKE WITH EXTENDED SOLO)
09 CRYING
10 I'M ON MY WAY
11 THIS AIN'T LOVE
12 WHO SAYS YOU CAN'T GO HOME (WITH KEITH URBAN)


CD4 2010s UNRELEASED SONGS

01 TIMES LIKE THESE
02 RAGE OF ANGELS
03 STATE OF THE UNION
04 ELVIS IN VEGAS
05 SHINE (2012 VERSION)
06 LOVE TO FALL
07 SUMMER'S GONE
08 WHAT'S LEFT OF ME (DEMO)
09 ROOM AT THE END OF THE WORLD (DEMO)
10 NO APOLOGIES (DEMO)
11 TOUCH OF GRAY (DEMO)
12 A TEARDROP TO THE SEA (DEMO)


CD5 LIVE COVERS

01 HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE RAIN (JOHNSTOWN 1989)
02 TENTH AVENUE FREEZE-OUT (HORSENS 2011)
03 THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN (BERLIN 2000)
04 TURN THE PAGE (TORONTO 2010)
05 JOKER (YOKOHAMA 2003)
06 HEROES (TORONTO 2003)
07 EVE OF DESTRUCTION (WASHINGTON 2003)
08 BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER (MONTREAL 1994)
09 SEVEN DAYS (RED BANK 1990)
10 YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON (LONDON 1990)
11 I SHALL BE RELEASED (COPENHAGEN 1993)
12 DRIFT AWAY (1987)


BLURAY1 LIVE FROM HAMMERSMITH ODEON 1990

BLURAY2 LIVE FROM PARIS BERCY 1996

BLURAY3 LIVE FROM YOKOHAMA ARENA 2003

BLURAY4 LIVE FROM BOSTON 2005


I could nt agree more and i m quoting in order to have some added exposure..
only tiny change, i d put the live vrs of Any other Day from 2007 O2 arena with the special Richie moment...
this solo, and jon hugging Rich while they are going to stage at RnRhf gets me every single time...\

bonjovi90 10-11-2021 12:56 PM

I'd also like to hear the pre-BOR version "The Right To Walk Away".

Savvi 10-11-2021 01:31 PM

"Summer's Gone" is on the Beach Boy's 2012 album That's Why God Made The Radio. It's actually my least favourite track on the album and would be a waste of space on the box set.

I do however very much want to hear Hurricane Butterfly. Also, would love a version of Burn With Me with much better vocals (Jon sounds like a strangled cat in the available version).

Also, Let It Rain is a 90's demo? I have obviously missed something.

Nige 10-11-2021 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1275864)
Also, Let It Rain is a 90's demo? I have obviously missed something.

I think that refers to the song he recorded with Pavarotti, not the 2020 song.

BTW - Elvis in Vegas is a 94 demo from the CR/TD sessions. That would be high on my list of "must hear" tracks.

bonjovi90 10-11-2021 01:47 PM

Summer's Gone - as far as I remember - wasn't written by Jon, but he came in and contributed a verse and some lines.
So I doubt there's a recording of his in the vaults.

Quote:

"Summer's Gone," the final track on "Radio," was finished with the help of Jon Bon Jovi. " 'Summer's Gone' was something we wrote one verse to and then Jon Bon Jovi came by the studio one day and he called it Brian's 'My Way,' " Thomas said. "Jon collaborated with us a little on it, changing the melody in a couple of spots. He wrote some really nice verses that kind of tied it all in together. We definitely appreciated the contribution because it took it from one great verse to one great song."
https://web.archive.org/web/20120729...g-radio-waves/

Jovi98 10-11-2021 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonJovi100 (Post 1275861)
Nice list, but I would make a few modifications ;)
Live CD is out and another CD with Demos is in

CD-5
All We Are (THINFS)
All In The Name Of Love (DA)
Chaising Amy* (Movie)
Halo (2020)
Have A Nice Day (HAND Demo)
Hurricane Butterfly (THINFS?)
It Only Takes One To Say Goodbye* (Bounce)
Love is Just Another (KTF)
Nobody Heroes (CR/TD Demo)*
Notorious (SWW)
Revenge* (KTF Demo)
This Ain't a Drinking Song* (TD Demo)
Water Into Wine (KTF Demo)
I Watched Her Walk Away (Bounce?)
Song For Petter Pan Movie

List of songs I'm looking forward to the most:
01.Sex Sells
02.Chaising Amy
03.Rage Of Angels
04.Crying
05.It Only Takes One To Say Goodbye
06.Just Like A Princess
07.State Of Our Union
08. I Watched Her Walk Away (Bounce?)
09.This Ain't Love
10.Nothing
11.Nobody Heroes (CR/TD Demo)
12.We All Sleep Alone / Revenge* (KTF Demo)

+ It would be nice to see first version videoclip to "Welcome To Wherever You Are"


God every time I see the title "it only takes one to say goodbye" I'm excited :D

About " I watched her walk away" yes, should be an outtake from the Bounce era.

Hurricane Butterfly more probably is an outtake from THINFS.


Crying for the band was too sad and according to them it hasn't left the notebook, even if there's a little possibility they've recorded it.


There is also the song "Elvis in Vegas" that could be in the box set.


Someone mentioned the song " Love to fall" feat Avicii, but according to Jon if I'm not wrong, he said that they haven't recorded it.

BonJovi100 10-11-2021 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovi98 (Post 1275867)
God every time I see the title "it only takes one to say goodbye" I'm excited :D
About " I watched her walk away" yes, should be an outtake from the Bounce era.
Hurricane Butterfly more probably is an outtake from THINFS.
Crying for the band was too sad and according to them it hasn't left the notebook, even if there's a little possibility they've recorded it.
There is also the song "Elvis in Vegas" that could be in the box set.
Someone mentioned the song " Love to fall" feat Avicii, but according to Jon if I'm not wrong, he said that they haven't recorded it.

Although I have included a few songs on my list that have been given away to other artists it seems unlikely that we will hear tracks like "Elvis In Vegas" (Meat Loaf) or "We All Sleep Alone" (Cher).

Avicii said that Jon wasn't too keen to finish recording the track. It probably only exists in a demo version, but the Bon Jovi camp is unlikely to own it.

blazeofglory 10-11-2021 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige (Post 1275865)
I think that refers to the song he recorded with Pavarotti, not the 2020 song.

BTW - Elvis in Vegas is a 94 demo from the CR/TD sessions. That would be high on my list of "must hear" tracks.

Oh I had no idea that Elvis In Vegas was from 94 - it's an ultimate "must hear" track for me either way, but that makes it even more of a "must hear" track :D

steel_horse75 10-12-2021 12:04 AM

I can’t see songs given away to other artists being on the box set although would love Elvis in Vegas.
Meatloafs version is perfect for his opera rock but 1994s Jon would have sounded amazing.


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YOVANAfromPeru 10-22-2021 11:40 PM

“To coincide with what will be our 40th anniversary in 2023, we’re in the midst of archiving anything and everything we have, and much to my surprise, there’s probably 40 or 50 songs that we had no idea existed. We’re going through that all right now. And now that technology is such - whether it’s lyric books or photographs and video and film and things - I had no idea that I was such a hoarder, we have a lot. And to coincide with the 40th anniversary is going to be the be all end all box set.”

Xavi 10-23-2021 01:11 AM

I dont believe any single word Jon Bon Jovi says.

Peter_Nik 10-23-2021 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1276018)
I dont believe any single word Jon Bon Jovi says.

I absolutely agree

bonjovi90 10-23-2021 11:31 AM

Neither do I. When it actually comes to fruition, it's absolutely great. But Jon's called himself a "notorious liar" in the past, so I'd rather sit back and watch it unfold. Getting mega-hyped now just to bitch about us not getting what had been announced in two years ain't worth it. Already done that the shit Experience.

rolo_tomachi 10-24-2021 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1276014)
“To coincide with what will be our 40th anniversary in 2023, we’re in the midst of archiving anything and everything we have, and much to my surprise, there’s probably 40 or 50 songs that we had no idea existed. We’re going through that all right now. And now that technology is such - whether it’s lyric books or photographs and video and film and things - I had no idea that I was such a hoarder, we have a lot. And to coincide with the 40th anniversary is going to be the be all end all box set.”

end all? what is he referring to?

Alphavictim 10-24-2021 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1276056)
end all? what is he referring to?

"Be all end all of boxsets" means something like "the daddy of all boxsets" or "the best there is". See https://www.wordreference.com/es/tra...0and%20end-all

rolo_tomachi 10-24-2021 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1276057)
"Be all end all of boxsets" means something like "the daddy of all boxsets" or "the best there is". See https://www.wordreference.com/es/tra...0and%20end-all

Too good to be true. They are not able to put these shows in the Experience, I doubt it is that great. Let's see what happens.

James_86 10-25-2021 07:46 AM

Given that alot of the content will be post 2000, I think this being the "be all, end all" is a bit of stretch but sure Jon, sure [emoji849]

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BJFan99 10-25-2021 11:17 AM

Btw, do you think Richie will be featured on the recordings that he originally played on, or will Shanks overdub his guitar parts (god forbid if he does...)?

Litneg 10-25-2021 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1276064)
Btw, do you think Richie will be featured on the recordings that he originally played on, or will Shanks overdub his guitar parts (god forbid if he does...)?

Old songs with Shank? ... *Michael Scott yelling 'No, God, please, no!'*.

BJFan99 10-25-2021 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1276065)
Old songs with Shank? ... *Michael Scott yelling 'No, God, please, no!'*.

This.

Exactly this.

Captain_jovi 10-25-2021 03:11 PM

For as much as people complain about that idea, a lot of Burning Bridges was pretty well received here.

rolo_tomachi 10-25-2021 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1276067)
For as much as people complain about that idea, a lot of Burning Bridges was pretty well received here.

BB is fantastic, give me 50 songs as interesting as that album, and I would be very happy.

A lot of people don't know, but a lot of additional guitars from the 2004 box set were added by Bobby Bandiera.

If it's songs from the last 10-12 years I don't care if Shanks is on guitar. He has some interesting solos like Fingerprints (although it remains to be seen if the original demo of that song, Richie did the same solo, and the re-recording we got was just Shanks replicating it).

My problem would be with the older songs, if for example they include a song from the eighties or nineties, and Richie has a good guitar solo, it would bother me a lot if they removed it to add a guitar solo from Shanks or Phil.

Captain_jovi 10-25-2021 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1276068)
BB is fantastic, give me 50 songs as interesting as that album, and I would be very happy.

A lot of people don't know, but a lot of additional guitars from the 2004 box set were added by Bobby Bandiera.

If it's songs from the last 10-12 years I don't care if Shanks is on guitar. He has some interesting solos like Fingerprints (although it remains to be seen if the original demo of that song, Richie did the same solo, and the re-recording we got was just Shanks replicating it).

My problem would be with the older songs, if for example they include a song from the eighties or nineties, and Richie has a good guitar solo, it would bother me a lot if they removed it to add a guitar solo from Shanks or Phil.

Agreed, I don't think it will go that far. We're not going to get 50 good songs (or probably 50 songs at all), the 2004 came from the golden era and STILL had quite a few terrible songs.

End of the day it's lunacy to compare what didn't get released to what got released because people thought it was bad. If Jon is such a bad A&R guy (a horse beat dead within an each of its life by now) we may get a bunch of good stuff here regardless of the era and players. Shanks can play and have his sound fit in well but most of what he's done that I've loved hasn't exactly made the final record.

rokuli 10-25-2021 10:55 PM

Just, please Bongiovi, do not mess with random Slippery tracks here on this 40th Anniversary thing...

Rather give us one complete "be all end all" Slippery When Wet box (do as Metallica did on their releases) with all the demos + working in progress, 5.1 (already out there) + decent pro-shot video of a complete concert. Along with marbles (online joke of Pink Floyd boxes), stickers, replica backstage passes + Secret Society newsletters.

Thank you.

cqleonardo 10-26-2021 04:58 AM

I will be happy with anything they release, I'm easy to please, I just hope is something well done, good production, good artwork with a lot of interesting stuff for us to look at.
I bet it will have a lot of songs from 2000 to now, makes sense since the first box was 80s/90s/00s.
Hope the SWW stuff that leaked I don't know how many years ago make to this box set, I have zero hopes for a special edition for SWW, if he wanted to do, he would have done already... And that's it, my greatest fear is production, actually. Hope they leave to Obie and Obie alone, besides some weird stuffs like the key change in Last Chance Train and whatever happened to Starting All Over Again, I love what he did on the first box set

Peter_Nik 10-26-2021 02:18 PM

it won't surprise me if they will release another greatest hits album instead. Including Livin on a Prayer, It's my life, Bad name etc... and 2 new songs maybe. because they could earn some good money on it. The box set will be unprofitable for Jony's and Matt's business mind.

rolo_tomachi 10-26-2021 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Nik (Post 1276091)
it won't surprise me if they will release another greatest hits album instead. Including Livin on a Prayer, It's my life, Bad name etc... and 2 new songs maybe. because they could earn some good money on it. The box set will be unprofitable for Jony's and Matt's business mind.

About another GH, I think that could happen in 2024. Maybe that's why the Box Set is launched in 2023.

The question is ... what will happen in 2022? a new album? an extended edition of 2020? an EP with new songs to promote the tour?

Litneg 10-26-2021 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1276092)
About another GH, I think that could happen in 2024. Maybe that's why the Box Set is launched in 2023.

The question is ... what will happen in 2022? a new album? an extended edition of 2020? an EP with new songs to promote the tour?

... Or nothing at all? hahahaha

Captain_jovi 10-26-2021 03:58 PM

I don't see another GH coming, The 2010 didn't do so hot and that was five years after their last hit. They've had nothing overly massive since Who Says and the last GH was padded with fan favourites just to fill it. I think it will make more money than the box set would, sure, but both will cost $$$ to market.

blazeofglory 10-26-2021 04:18 PM

I can't really imagine them putting out another GH either (at least not in the near future). They haven't had any hits since the last one came out, so what would they even change about the tracklist?

I also don't think it would sell particularly well because everyone who's had an interest in a Bon Jovi GH in recent times probably already bought the last one (and people are definitely still buying that one these days since it's usually floating around somewhere on the rock album charts on iTunes), so they're not gonna spend their money on a new one with like 3 different tracks that weren't even hits.

There's probably a bigger market for a new record (or the anniversary boxset) these days, especially in combination with a tour announcement.

Faceman 10-26-2021 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blazeofglory (Post 1276096)
There's probably a bigger market for a new record these days, especially in combination with a tour announcement.

And the sad truth is, that even for a new record the market isn't too big either.
2020 just proofed that when they can't combine it with ticket bundles, album sales were worse than we could have imagined.

Captain_jovi 10-26-2021 07:56 PM

Yeah there's no market for ANY of these options. Each of them will require a marketing push. With spotify and streaming I can't see the demand greatest hits used to have. It'll attract a certain market of people that still use CDs though but....physical media is dying off unless it's hyper specific to an era or a box set.


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