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rocknation 08-18-2015 02:49 AM

With Friends Like These, Who Needs (Political) Enemies?
 
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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1188968)
...Hillary (or Christie) will lose no support by being associated with Jon. Jon, on the other hand, WILL lose support by associating with either one of them. That's why I wish he'd keep his nose out of politics.

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1188967)
...Christie...using Bon Jovi songs immediately creates associations Jon should try to avoid considering his political views are completely opposite. I think people pay attention to these things...

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1190879)
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“It’s not an egregious flip-flop,” Mr. Christie said...“Jon and Dorothea Bon Jovi are friends of ours….Bruce’s music is still my favorite music. Come on. Are you kidding?”
Not the nicest way to put it though. I'd be Jon, I'd feel insulted.

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1188978)
Everyone loses because it calls the basic judgment of Jon, Christie AND Hillary into question. Besides, true "apolitical friends" let each other know when they're doing something that will make them look bad.


We saw this coming from light years away, and now it's here -- Jon's apolitical friend and Republican presidential hopeful Chris Christie has publicly fired a salvo at Jon's apolitical friend and Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton:
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Mediaite:...Chris Christie went after...Hillary Clinton...for making jokes about the deletion of her private emails. “Her arrogance is breathtaking,” Christie said...“Mrs. Clinton, this is not about politics...Why don’t you just answer this question: why’d you have your own private email server? I worked for the federal government for seven years as a U.S. attorney. It was made clear to all us when we walked in the door, official business is done on your official email account...(I)t’s the typical approach of the Clintons: where when they’re in trouble, they blame everyone else.”
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CNN: "Can you imagine, if after the bridge investigation began, I came out and said 'Oh, I've done all my business as governor on a private email server. And, I've deleted now 30,000 of those emails. But trust me none of it had to do with the bridge.' Give me a break."
Christie is not holding fellow Republican hopeful Jeb Bush to the same standard, however -- because Jeb's father gave Christie the U.S. Attorney job, perhaps?
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IB Times: In her initial response to this week's revelation that she exclusively used private email to conduct State Department business, Hillary Clinton tried to downplay...(a) New York Times report by saying that her predecessors as secretary of state employed the same practice...(She) faces allegations that she didn’t comply with federal recordkeeping requirements put in place in 2009...The State Department said going through (her) emails...some 55,000 pages -- would take months...

Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor who is considering a run for president as a Republican, used personal email while in office and owned the email server, and said he would release emails through this website “in the spirit of transparency.”

And here's another Republican presidential hopeful whose emailing habits may not meet Chris Christie's ethical standards:
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NYC.org:...(A) new report shows there were 12 text messages exchanged between...New Jersey Governor Chris Christie...(and) aide...Regina Egea...during an explosive day of testimony...(I)t's not unusual that the Governor and the aide...who was monitoring the testimony...would have been exchanging messages...But their previous denials raises the question of what other communications were deleted as the scandal unfolded.

(S)ubpoenaed...(p)hone records...show the governor initiated the exchange, sending a total of three texts to Egea on December 9, 2013. Egea returned the text, and sent nine in total, all during the 6 hours of testimony by Port Authority officials in which they...denied the existence of a legitimate traffic study...and said they feared for their jobs if they disobeyed Wildstein.

In Egea's own testimony last summer, the new report notes, she referred to a single text she sent that day as "not at all substantive." She said she "couldn't recall" a response from the governor. Egea acknowledged deleting the text, though she couldn't say when...Asked last summer about that text, Christie told reporters: "If it was of any moment or import I would have remembered it."
Is there an oxygen tank in the house? I'm feeling a little short of breath...

And what is Jon going to do -- support his apolitical friend Christie's allegations against Hillary, or defend his apolitical friend Hillary, (and, by extension, her husband) against Christie? At least ONE of them has stepped out of line. He's going to have to pick a side now --

Old Joysey 08-22-2015 09:46 PM

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What they're saying across the nation about Christie and his 2016 run

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The Asbury Park Press reported that Christie was at a fundraiser in the Hamptons this weekend with Jon Bon Jovi.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...t_christi.html

Can you open the link to APP? I can't , access denied 'cause I'm not a subscriber I guess.

Kathleen 08-22-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1192861)

Can you open the link to APP? I can't , access denied 'cause I'm not a subscriber I guess.

Here is the text - there are also a couple of videos.

TRENTON — Here is a look at what's being said across the nation about Gov. Chris Christie's run for president:

• The Des Moines (Iowa) Register ran an opinion piece from Kraig Paulsen, speaker of the Iowa House of Representatives, about why he is endorsing Christie for president.

• Talking Points Memo explored how Christie appears to be backtracking on birthright citizenship.

• The Asbury Park Press examined how a visit to the Iowa State Fair may have been key for Christie.

• The Asbury Park Press reported that Christie was at a fundraiser in the Hamptons this weekend with Jon Bon Jovi.

• Fox News Radio reported that Christie called President Obama "the worst negotiator in the history of the presidency" during an interview.

And here is the story about Christie and Jon "partying"

If it's August, chances are Jon Bon Jovi and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie are at a party in the Hamptons.

This year, it was a return to the Wainscott estate of Ronald O. Perelman to take part in the fundraiser for the Apollo Theater on Saturday, Aug. 15. Jamie Foxx, Jimmy Fallon, Pitball, Christina Aguilera, Smokey Robinson and Bon Jovi were the performers, backed by the Roots, and Jack Nicholson, Penny Marshall, Harvey Weinstein, Mary-Kate Olsen, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, Robert Kraft, Perelman and plenty more power players were in the audience, according to multiple reports.


Bon Jovi joined Robinson on stage for “The Tracks of My Tears,” according to the Wall Street Journal.

“This is what rock-and-roll history looks like,” Bon Jovi said of Robinson. “This is what rock 'n' roll history sounds like.”

Christie, who is a Republican presidential candidate, kept a low profile at the party as compared to last year when he jumped on stage to dance with Foxx. Instead, he ate fried chicken and salmon with Bon Jovi and convened with billionaire private equity boss Steve Schwarzman, according to a Bloomberg report. He sat with Matt Lauer to watch the show, according to the New York Times.

Bon Jovi, who has a home in East Hampton, has popped up at several events in the area this summer. Most recently he joined President Bill Clinton Tuesday, Aug. 18 at the the Blue Parrot restaurant in East Hampton for the Clinton's 68th birthday dinner, according to the Daily Mail.

Both Hillary and Chelsea Clinton didn't make the dinner. Jon Bon Jovi and wife Dorothea Bongiovi hosted a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton, a Democratic presidential candidate, in June at the Molly Pitcher Inn in Red Bank.


Bon Jovi is scheduled to release “Burning Bridges” on Friday, Aug. 21, the band’s first album without long-time guitarist and co-writer of the Bon Jovi hits, Richie Sambora.

Old Joysey 08-22-2015 10:48 PM

TY, Kathleen! :D

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Bon Jovi joined Robinson on stage for “The Tracks of My Tears,”
Oh yeah, I saw photos a few days ago: "Apollo in the Hamptons" and wondered what it was exactly. Now I know!

rocknation 08-23-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey
Can you open the link to APP? I can't , access denied 'cause I'm not a subscriber I guess...
TY, Kathleen!

I thank Kathleen, too -- death to geoblocking!

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1192865)
I saw photos a few days ago: "Apollo in the Hamptons" and wondered what it was exactly. Now I know!

It would have looked better to actually hold fundraiser AT the Apollo -- the band wasn't too scared to shoot the Keep The Faith video in Harlem:
https://youtu.be/eZQyVUTcpM4

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Kathleen 08-23-2015 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1192995)
I thank Kathleen, too -- death to geoblocking!

Wasn't that the original reason for the internet - so that anyone could see the same content anywhere?

They have already screwed that up haven't they. I manage to get around most of it with proxy servers but honestly it has become somewhat of a game for me.

You mean I can't see that - hmmm...... I bet I can find a way :D

Old Joysey 08-23-2015 08:40 PM

Was it geoblocking? I was only asked to subscribe. There's a different message when a site is geoblocked.

Proxy servers work fine but you end up spending your time changing the settings which is a bore. Yeah, we're far from the global village that they tried to sell us when it all started!

rocknation 08-25-2015 08:27 PM

This just in -- the state court has approved the three-cents-on the dollar Exxon Mobil settlement.

Kathleen 08-25-2015 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1193221)
This just in -- the state court has approved the three-cents-on the dollar Exxon Mobil settlement.

I just saw that in the Times. Ugh.....that guy has sold New New Jersey down the river more than once. Disgusting :(

rocknation 08-31-2015 01:07 AM

While his three-cents-on-the-dollar settlement is being appealed, let's check in on Christie's presidential campaign.

Christie has undisputed possession of eleventh place in the national polls, once again putting himself in danger of missing the cut for the next nationally televised Republican debate on Sept. 16:
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Politico: As CNN, Fox News and MSNBC covered (candidate Donald) Trump’s first town hall live — breaking only to run clips of Jeb Bush attacking the real estate tycoon — Christie was gasping for air on C-SPAN. Because the governor’s dimly lit event...was outdoors, the few viewers watching saw the candidate gradually disappear into darkness...“He’s just not getting the traction that I think he was expecting,” said (a)...former New Hampshire Republican party chairman...
That really is too bad, especially since Christie appointed one of his own aides to help run the New Hampshire Republican party!

But what's the cure -- what strategy should Christie employ to overcome the formidable polling and media domination of frontrunner Trump? Well, it makes sense to take a look at what Trump has been saying to earn such domination:
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  • "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best...They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

  • Trump publicly gave out Senator Lindsey Graham's phone number during a speech in South Carolina as a response to Graham calling him a "jackass".

  • Trump said that (Fox News Reporter Megyn) Kelly is a "lightweight" and had "blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever."

  • Trump said of (Senator John) McCain: "He’s not a war hero...because he was captured."

Did you see the pattern there? Do you see the answer? It's right under your nose -- the way to duplicate the success of The Donald (what his first wife called him) is to duplicate Duh Donald!
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NJ.com: You've heard it again and again in this wacky summer of Republican presidential politics: Chris Christie is the one who should be the leading plain-talking, outside-the-box, in-your-face, I'm-not-your-typical-Washington-politician candidate. But instead...that title has gone to the ever-controversial Donald Trump.

A focus group of Trump supporters...showed that while two-thirds of the panel's members agree Christie "tells it like it is," just about as many say it's the real estate mogul who's the "only person running for president who tells it like it is."

But all's fair in love, war...and campaign slogans. Christie released a new TV ad last week in which the governor closes by intoning: "Let's make America a leader again."

Sound familiar? It's essentially a retooling of the campaign slogan "Make America Great Again" uttered repeatedly this summer by -- yep -- Donald Trump.

Okay, slogan duplicating accomplished. All he has to do now is say something "ever controversial" that the Republican voters would love and that the national media simply could not ignore:
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NY Times: Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey said...that if he were elected president he would combat illegal immigration by...ask(ing) the chief executive of FedEx, Frederick W. Smith, to devise (a) tracking system.

“At any moment, FedEx can tell you where (a) package is: It’s on the truck. It’s at the station. It’s on the airplane,” Mr. Christie told the crowd in Laconia, N.H. “Yet we let people come to this country with visas, and the minute they come in, we lose track of them.”

He said 40 percent of illegal immigrants are allowed into the United States legally with a visa and then stay longer than their visa allows. “However long your visa is, then we...tap you on the shoulder and say, ‘Excuse me. Thanks for coming. Time to go.’”
First of all, it's not FedEx who Christie be talking to about implementing his plan...


Secondly, where would the tracking mechanism be? If it's on the visa itself, that raises the problem of the visa not always being where the visa holder is. That leaves embedding it in the visa holder, like that movie Logan's Run:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...46e4aec6c3.jpg

Or something could be tattooed on, like what was done to Holocaust prisoners.

So far, FedEx has declined comment...for some reason...


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