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bonjovi_cro 06-20-2024 01:07 AM

Also not sure where to post this, so I'll put it here.

"UMG plans to let artists control and profit from virtual vocals, which could help people like Jon Bon Jovi extend their careers"

Yikes, singling Jon like that :confused:

"In addition, the voice model can by used like the voices on a synthesizer, offering additional creative opportunities. While its use as an onstage tool remain to be revealed, it could theoretically be used by a singer like Jon Bon Jovi – who fears he may never tour again as a result of health issues – to stay on the road.

Read More: Singers Offered AI Voice Cloning by World’s Biggest Record Label | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/sing...edium=referral

Wrath Mania 06-20-2024 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi_cro (Post 1294407)
Also not sure where to post this, so I'll put it here.

"UMG plans to let artists control and profit from virtual vocals, which could help people like Jon Bon Jovi extend their careers"

Yikes, singling Jon like that :confused:

"In addition, the voice model can by used like the voices on a synthesizer, offering additional creative opportunities. While its use as an onstage tool remain to be revealed, it could theoretically be used by a singer like Jon Bon Jovi – who fears he may never tour again as a result of health issues – to stay on the road.

Read More: Singers Offered AI Voice Cloning by World’s Biggest Record Label | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/sing...edium=referral

As much as Jon chases trends and is willing to cut corners to make a buck, I would like to believe, even now, that he’d refuse to do this.

Of course, would he use some sort of AI toolkit to bolster his voice on an album without admitting it? He’s basically been doing that for 20 years…

Butters 06-20-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wrath Mania (Post 1294409)
As much as Jon chases trends and is willing to cut corners to make a buck, I would like to believe, even now, that he’d refuse to do this.

Of course, would he use some sort of AI toolkit to bolster his voice on an album without admitting it? He’s basically been doing that for 20 years…

Taylor Swift has the biggest tour in the world while miming 90% of the time. (she's been doing that for quite a while.) Hopefully Jon doesn't go down this path entirely, but a little help from AI might not be terrible.

bonjovi_cro 06-20-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Butters (Post 1294411)
Taylor Swift has the biggest tour in the world while miming 90% of the time. (she's been doing that for quite a while.) Hopefully Jon doesn't go down this path entirely, but a little help from AI might not be terrible.

I think AI use in studio is alright if done right, as it's conceptually not very different from pro tools and melodyne use for pitch and timing correction etc, especially when ideas and hard work are there, but vocals are diminished due to decades of use and singing, etc.

But with live shows it's complicated. I mean, if they can use sophisticated AI so that Jon sings live and just the output is a bit better, then alright. But I can't imagine it still, without miming, or without being embarassed by random moments when it's not gonna work. Perhaps I'm underestimating the level of technology.

Basically I personally don't care, he was on top of his game for decades, now I just want to see another decent tour, I'm already alright with the fact that Jon's vocals will be a weak link. But for them to not receive backlash from general audience, it cannot be obvious with miming, etc.

B.J. Always 06-20-2024 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi_cro (Post 1294407)
Also not sure where to post this, so I'll put it here.

"UMG plans to let artists control and profit from virtual vocals, which could help people like Jon Bon Jovi extend their careers"

Yikes, singling Jon like that :confused:

"In addition, the voice model can by used like the voices on a synthesizer, offering additional creative opportunities. While its use as an onstage tool remain to be revealed, it could theoretically be used by a singer like Jon Bon Jovi – who fears he may never tour again as a result of health issues – to stay on the road.

Read More: Singers Offered AI Voice Cloning by World’s Biggest Record Label | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/sing...edium=referral

Jon put his vocal problems out in a big way in that Doc. so I'm not really surprised that he got singled out. I'm totally against AI for anything, but I'm sure my feeling make no difference at all.

Personally I'm still trying to figure out why Jon was on the game show Jeopardy!?
It was too late to be an album promotion since the album dropped well before he was even on the show. Is it literally anything for money now?

Captain_jovi 06-20-2024 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by B.J. Always (Post 1294414)
Jon put his vocal problems out in a big way in that Doc. so I'm not really surprised that he got singled out. I'm totally against AI for anything, but I'm sure my feeling make no difference at all.

Personally I'm still trying to figure out why Jon was on the game show Jeopardy!?
It was too late to be an album promotion since the album dropped well before he was even on the show. Is it literally anything for money now?

Why would they stop promoting it as soon as it's been released though? There's a wide middle ground between "the album is already out" and "doing it to get paid"

B.J. Always 06-23-2024 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1294424)
Why would they stop promoting it as soon as it's been released though? There's a wide middle ground between "the album is already out" and "doing it to get paid"

It's a TV game show. I don't think Jon being on that type of show is going to help sell any album at all. I doubt that many people on the forum have even seen the show since it is US based.

Captain_jovi 06-23-2024 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by B.J. Always (Post 1294511)
It's a TV game show. I don't think Jon being on that type of show is going to help sell any album at all. I doubt that many people on the forum have even seen the show since it is US based.

A LOT of people still watch Jeopardy though.

Rdkopper 06-23-2024 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1294513)
A LOT of people still watch Jeopardy though.

Marketing and Advertising is so different in 2024... It's all about what you "follow" and "stream" nowadays. Between the documentary and the new album, Jon did the most promo I've ever seen him do in 40 years. Major TV Networks, Podcasts, Social Media, Interviews, Etc... He even got some decent airplay for Legendary.

Jon seriously covered a ton of ground so kudos to him... Since he's not touring, I guess he decided to go all in. But even after all that promo, I bet there are a vast majority of people out there who have no idea that Bon Jovi have a new album out.

A lot of people aren't watching network TV anymore. It's too expensive so they are just watching streaming services. There is an entire generation that has given up on paid cable / direct TV services. Even 10 years ago people watched cable TV and listened to the radio... Now it's all streaming on both ends.

So covering every notch of your target audience is the key and I truly believe that Jon (and his promo team) did an exceptional job!!!

I'm really curious to know if the record company set a specific standard of promo being that he's not touring.

Thinny 06-23-2024 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1294521)
Between the documentary and the new album, Jon did the most promo I've ever seen him do in 40 years.

In 40 years? Maybe in 15 years I would agree. But the amount of promo these guys would do in the 80s, 90s and even early 2000s was insane. They did a great job with the promo this time around, but it was nowhere near what they would do at their peak.


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