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Johny 05-27-2014 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 1177106)
The demo is miles better. The "polished" version ****s up the melodies and is missing the rawness of the demo. Especially the pre-chorus sucks ass in the polished version. But apparently we will get both versions, so I'm happy.

Ice

I'm afraid we're getting only the b-side version:

DISC 1: NEW JERSEY (original album, remastered) + bonus tracks
1. Lay Your Hands On Me
2. Bad Medicine
3. Born To Be My Baby
4. Living In Sin
5. Blood On Blood
6. Homebound Train
7. Wild Is The Wind
8. Ride Cowboy Ride
9. Stick To Your Guns
10. I’ll Be There For You
11. 99 In The Shade
12. Love For Sale Bonus Tracks:
13. The Boys Are Back In Town (Cover of the Thin Lizzy classic; previously released on Stairway To Heaven/Highway To Hell compilation; released in the U.K. as a 12” single B-side)
14. Love Is War (B-side from Living In Sin single)
15. Born To Be My Baby (Acoustic Version; previously released as a B-side in Japan)

DISC 2: The ‘SONS OF BEACHES’ Demos (** All tracks on DISC 2 are previously unreleased)
1. Homebound Train
2. Judgment Day 3. Full Moon High
4. Growin’ Up The Hard Way
5. Let’s Make It Baby
6. Love Hurts
7. Backdoor To Heaven
8. Now And Forever
9. Wild Is The Wind
10. Stick To Your Guns
11. House Of Fire
12. Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore?
13. Diamond Ring

Iceman 05-27-2014 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1177108)
I'm afraid we're getting only the b-side version:

Aah, shit. I thought I saw the demo version on the second disk. Damn it. The demo is way better.

Ice

bonjovi90 05-27-2014 12:34 PM

Does anyone know what the lyrics in the chorus of the demo are?
In the released version Jon sings:

"Tell me why,
Love is war,
when the battle is done,
you still want more..."

In the demo he sings:
"Tell me why,
love is war,
I (??) my heart,
but you still want more..."

I was never able to properly find the word he uses there.

Iceman 05-27-2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1177111)
Does anyone know what the lyrics in the chorus of the demo are?
In the released version Jon sings:

"Tell me why,
Love is war,
when the battle is done,
you still want more..."

In the demo he sings:
"Tell me why,
love is war,
I (??) my heart,
but you still want more..."

I was never able to properly find the word he uses there.

I surrender my heart.

Ice

bonjovi90 05-27-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 1177112)
I surrender my heart.

Ice

Thank, pal! :)

Alphavictim 05-27-2014 01:08 PM

Ice, didn't you also prefer the OWN version of OWN over the Crush one? I was mighty puzzled by that.

That being said, neither version of LIW is perfect I feel. The modulation to the chrous in the demo sounds rather abrupt, but the prechorus itself has a better melody.

Dave 1986 05-27-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 1177110)
Aah, shit. I thought I saw the demo version on the second disk. Damn it. The demo is way better.

Ice

I prefer the demo, though only marginally. It's darker, angrier and more sincere, whereas the b-side version (while still good) is basically YGLaBN - Part 2.

Alphavictim 05-27-2014 01:17 PM

Do you really turn to hair metal when you want sincere music, though?

The b-side version features a couple more tricks towards the end, which, though played out, give it more of an anthemic feel.

prayer_84 05-27-2014 02:55 PM

Hello everyone,

Just like any other die-hard fan, I was pretty excited to learn about this release. I've got one question, though: Does anyone know if the songs we find on these 2 discs (except for the demos for Homebound Train, Wild Is The Wind and Stick to Your Guns), plus Rosie are all the songs that were originally meant to be included in the proposed double album?

DISC 1: NEW JERSEY (original album, remastered) + bonus tracks
1. Lay Your Hands On Me
2. Bad Medicine
3. Born To Be My Baby
4. Living In Sin
5. Blood On Blood
6. Homebound Train
7. Wild Is The Wind
8. Ride Cowboy Ride
9. Stick To Your Guns
10. I’ll Be There For You
11. 99 In The Shade
12. Love For Sale Bonus Tracks:
13. The Boys Are Back In Town (Cover of the Thin Lizzy classic; previously released on Stairway To Heaven/Highway To Hell compilation; released in the U.K. as a 12” single B-side)
14. Love Is War (B-side from Living In Sin single)
15. Born To Be My Baby (Acoustic Version; previously released as a B-side in Japan)

DISC 2: The ‘SONS OF BEACHES’ Demos (** All tracks on DISC 2 are previously unreleased)
1. Homebound Train
2. Judgment Day 3. Full Moon High
4. Growin’ Up The Hard Way
5. Let’s Make It Baby
6. Love Hurts
7. Backdoor To Heaven
8. Now And Forever
9. Wild Is The Wind
10. Stick To Your Guns
11. House Of Fire
12. Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore?
13. Diamond Ring

We've got a total of 28 songs on both discs. If we take our the 3 demos (HT,WITW,STYG), and the cover (Boys are back in town), we get 24 songs, plus Rosie = 25. Any ideas?

Iceman 05-27-2014 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1177114)
Ice, didn't you also prefer the OWN version of OWN over the Crush one? I was mighty puzzled by that.

Yeah. It flows much better. The stupid na-na-na's ruin the original version and abrupt the flow of the song. Plus the guitars are higher in the mix for the 2001 version.

But for Love Is War, the demo is a lot better than the finished. The B-side version is just too polished and the pre-chorus melody is bad. Also not crazy about the lyric changes.

Ice


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