As great as it is to finally hear, and own these officially, I've got to say, on quite a few of the tracks, the guitars are way too low in the mix imo.

I'm finding it frustrating to listen to, for example, listen to 'Backdoor..' then listen to the leaked/bootleg version, and hopefully you'll see what I mean.

Same goes for the solo in 'Love Hurts', so low in the mix.

And yet, others like 'Homebound..' sound fine..

I wish they had left the tracks well alone, and just released them in good quality and at the correct speed, and I would have been a happy bunny.

Also, as has been said before, the version of 'Does anybody..' theyve chosen is bemusing, compared to the leaked version. Only reason I can think of for that, is if the other version is lost/damaged beyond repair. Either that or someone thought they were being clever/cool. NO.

I noticed reading the booklet, that Diamond Ring is the only track listed that hasn't been remixed, and you can tell, sounds superb.

I'm still happy to have the set, and still love most of the tracks, I just wish they hadnt messed with the mixes. ('Lets make it..' and 'Diamond Ring should have been on NJ or KTF imo).

PS - meant to ask.. Is it just me or does the bass line of 'Diamond Ring' sound practically identical to 'Lets make it baby'? Can't believe I've never noticed it before.

Reached number 50 in the UK album charts.

Yup, It always takes me a few seconds to tell them apart.

Yeah, I'm totally with you on this. On the leaked version of "Backdoor" the lead guitar is soaring, and for me this makes the song so great. So I was totally bummed with the mix they released. I have no idea why the guitar is mixed so soft into the mix we got now. Guitar solo's should take centerstage when the parts don't overlap with the lead vocals.

With "Does anybody" I don't know what went wrong with the versions and the (missing) solo's. For me, Richie's solo's are the reason I like this band so much. I have a theory though, but I'm not sure if it holds up... Maybe they didn't get further with "Does anybody" than this version that most of us are complaining about... and they only made the more finished version (that we know from the leaks) when there was a request from Cher's label to give her the song. So maybe... the somewhat more evolved version of "Does anybody" did only come into fruition AFTER the official New Jersey sessions. Just a theory...

Its a good theory. The leaked version and Chers version are almost identical. I think that has something to do with it in some way.

I find that frustrating too.On the leaked version the guitar is so loud and awesome...it gives me eargasms.
I'm going to start downloading some audio editing softwares that are expensive to buy,cause I tried bringing up the guitar in Audacity,Wavosaur etc. and I have no ideea how to do it.
If I can bring up the guitar with these new softwares that I'm downloading,I'll send you a PM with the song.

Just noticed that, surprising for a more expensive version re-release.

Reached number 90 on the Australian album chart.

I think it's taking all version of the Deluxe Edition into account not just the Super Box Set version. The iTunes version is only. £8.99.

Sales:

41 Dolly Parton [The Very Best Of...] 2,841 (457,890)
43 Jack Bugg [Shangri La] 2,499
46 Bombay Bicycle Club 2,291
50 Bon Jovi 2,251

Interesting. Probably confirms the exact number of Bon Jovi true die hards in the UK!

Is the unit sales information public? Do you have a link?

As a collector of Bon Jovi cds and records from around the world, I agreed with this 100%.

+ The researchers would have realised that the acoustic version of Born To Be My Baby has already been released in the UK as a B-Side to the LYHOM Gatefold 12", not just in Japan as stated. (sorry for being a geek)

Only this one http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index...owtopic=167722

Nah....Even people on here admitted that they weren't going to purchase it but download it illegally instead. Plus, there are still a bunch of people who still haven't purchased it for various reasons...waiting for the price to drop, etc

Aloha !

The Bon Jovi camp has no idea what was released where and when. When the boxset was released in 2004, Universal issued a full list of all songs ever released and in what territory. There were a few mistakes on there and lacked a few songs as well.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Fair point.....

I fit into both those catagories. I have my eye on the Super Deluxe, but no way am I spending $40 on it.

Probably have to divide it by 2 as each CD or download of Deluxe Edition counts as 2 units

Since all the talk about Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore I simply wrote to Obie on Facebook and asked him why the "I know's" were taken away from the song. I was a bit suprised when he answered me today. So, here's the reply!

http://i57.tinypic.com/2qx1g8w.jpg

That's cool that he responded.

Well that settles it. No controversies, legal dealings, royalties and drama. Just an early version.

Yep. Though his answer is not 100% correct (which he probably isn't even aware of), since this is also a different recording (slightly different drum breaks, etc.), so the vocals were not simply added to this demo some time after it was recorded, but it must've been recorded again and that tape got lost somehow...

Someone should ask him if a Soundboard of Cadillac Man exists and if so, can we get a copy.

I'm not quite sure I get it totally...

So is he saying the original version that we all know is lost? And then what vocals were added after the fact? Is he saying that it was just a raw vocal only that Obie matched it to the music?

Jon tells someone to keep going. Is it the band or whoever was recording? See, I asked this question prior and someone said it was the band but the reason why I initially asked it was because, it doesn't sound live to me.

As far as I get it, this is the original demo and, according to Obie, the vocal tracks we all know (with the "I know"s, the higher melody line, etc.) were added later (after the sessions), and that recording has been lost somehow. Though after trying to mix both of the versions we have together, I tend to claim that this is a different recording altogether, meaning that they recorded the song again later in the more full-fledged version we all know and love, and that recording has been lost.

Concering the "keep going", to me it sounds like they were recording all the demos live together in one room and Jon wanted to improvise, because he just came up with "I know" and wanted to try that out, so he told the band to keep going and play for a little while longer, even though the song was basically done. Note that after that, he eventually gets the whole "correct" melody together, just one octave down from what we know. So for me it's like the origin story of the finished vocal line, which is kind of cool, although I would've preferred the other version in pristine condition ;-)

Hey guys, got a quick question.

I ordered the Super Deluxe edition and it has arrived at customs in Singapore (where I am). I just got a call saying my shipment has been flagged for a customs check.

I'm sure the CDs are fine and it's a long shot but I was just wondering if there was any footage of nudity, drug use or anything culturally sensitive (racism etc) in the Access All Areas DVD? Seems like a stupid question but I'd rather not get in trouble. :shock:

Thanks

Apart from several F-bombs, there's nothing too outrageous on there.

Come to think of it... can anybody who has the physical release tell us who is credited for House Of Fire?

Desmond , Alice Cooper and Joan Jett ;)

IMO,Bon Jovi's House of Fire has far better guitar and drums than Cooper's version.

Btw can anyone tell me what Jon is saying during the chorus of Love Hurts cause the internet is full of ''Bon Jovi'' - Love Hurts from Nazareth lyrics,which isn't even Jovi,I think it's Cory Heart or something like that.
This is what I hear,is it correct?

-Love Hurts,hurts you inside from the day that you're born till the day that you die.
-Love Hurts,touch you it's hot from the day that you're born till the day that you die.

According to the lyric book:

Love Hurts
Hurts you inside, from the day that you're born to the day that you die
Love Hurts
The hurt goes away, hold on to your heart, we'll make it someday

any idea what the other release will be?

I think I read somewhere some time ago that it was a compilation with live and studio tracks. Hopefully it will unreleased tracks.

Aren't we also getting more Deluxe Editions as well?

After looking at first week sales for NJ, we'd be so lucky to get future releases.

Been searching around, couldn't find the sales figures. What are they?
Thanks

Hope that it will be Sex Sells demos or SWW demos.

Using the HITS Daily Double chart as a reference, it didn't even debut in the top 50. The album at the 50 position sold only 5,500 units so using this as a starting point, the NJ Deluxe Edition did even worse by not charting in the top 50 which also means that sales are less then 5500 units sold. It only sold 2200 in its debut in the UK and peaked at number 90 on the Australian album chart. If units sold are doubled, these numbers are absolutely pathetic!

I don't meant to take it out on fans here but we, as dies-hards, could have done so much better supporting this. This era is the reason why 95% of us are here today and more so, still here today. Reviews have been positive so there are no excuses.

If this mess up our chances for future releases, I'm going to be so pissed.

Led Zeppelin recently re-released some classic albums and they all have been charting in the top 50 since their initial releases.

Yea but let's face it, Led Zeppelin are a lot more 'molly coddled' by the critics and the media than Bon Jovi are. Obviously not having a go at Zeppelin or their fans (I'm not a massive fan of theirs, personally), but whatever they release is gonna sell well regardless. Plus they are considered a "legendary band", like the Beatles and Pink Floyd (both bands have also reissued their back catalogue in recent years and have charted highly), unlike Bon Jovi who sadly aren't generally considered as such. Simply put, Bon Jovi just aren't quite in the same league as Zeppelin, Beatles or Floyd.

It's sad, but it's true.